Russell Brand...was He Right Last Night ?

[mikey4444]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-30441293

I am far from being a Russell Brand fan. He is a terrible scruffbag and I wish he do would his shirt up, get a hair cut and have a shave. But he described Farage last night, on Question Time, as a "Pound Shop Enoch Powell"

Short, sharp and to the point ....Well done Russell !

[Old_Geezer]

Really ? So his major contribution to the show was personal insults ?

[douglas9401]

He's not The Messiah, he's a very mouthy boy.

I switched off when Dimbleby sat grinning and let the two of them hold the floor. He's another legend in his own mind.

[mikey4444]

I will admit that it did get a bit rowdy but in my opinion, he was right on the button when it came to Farage. I notice that Farage is still blaming all those Polish drivers that were in front of him on the M4 for not turning up to his appointment in Port Talbot !

[mushroom25]

isn't question time supposed to be a serious debating forum?

or does it have aspirations to be a "beyond the watershed" version of the Jeremy kyle show?

[Svejk]

///The UKIP leader said the quality of life for many in the UK had gone down as a result of immigration but faced a hostile response from one woman in the audience///

Actually from a Socialist Workers Party 'plant' in the audience. Normal people seemed to agree with him.

[mikey4444]

Come on...don't be so ruddy po-faced ! Its not the Oxford Union debate !
Brand is lacking in the smarmy politician department, but he gets his point across quite clearly.

Have a look at the latest YouGov Poll :::

https://yougov.co.uk/news/2014/12/12/labour-lead-2/

Huge drop in popularity for UKIP...hardly surprising with the week they have had I suppose.

[naomi24]

I didn't see it - thankfully - but supporting the idiot that is Russell Brand in anything he says just to further your political ends has to be scraping the barrel.

[ichkeria]

I don't like Russell Brand or Nigel Farage and I'm glad I don't live near either the pro- anti anti UKIP members of the audience. They did liven up what has become rather a dull show.
It was interesting that David Dimbleby seemed pleased that there was a bit of life back in it!
Yes the 'pound shop Powell jibe was a good one (can't see Farage quoting Latin poets somehow) but I sympathised with Kentish White Van Man who challenged him to actually stand for parliament

[ludwig]

He was basically accusing Farage of being a racist, while offering no evidence to support the accusation, just like the shouty idiot in the audience was. It's pretty standard stuff.

[DTCwordfan]

when he had that barney and the Labour woman stepped in to point out that he talks over women, then Dimbleby chastising him that he was the chair, I switched off. Painful and bordering on boorish.

[oldbillbuck]

There is a significant proportion of the population of the UK who do not wish to be in the EU and as such have had no representation in any of the major parties until the rise of UKIP. As a result UKIP and Nigel Farage, as their leader recieve massive negative publicity from all quarters of politics and the media and anyone looking for a cheap shot, i.e. Russel Brand. It appeared that, as usual the audience was carefully selected by the BBC as a significant proportion appeared to be Russel Brand supporters, cheering and clapping at every inane utterance. I thought that QT was meant to be a serious debate, although of recent years it has been reduced to a tory-bashing forum, in line with the general BBC bias to the Left.

[ichkeria]

That's nonsense with respect. Farage is never off the BBC

[ichkeria]

Farage May or may not be a racist but he is either an outrageous xenophobe or someone who stirs up xenophobia for his own ends. And he's now benefitting from the 'anti politics' mood which has seen UKIP's support transcend the anti EU anti-immigrant thing.
But everything about him is a fraud. Even his name. He's a classic example of the sort of politician he claims to despise.
And Brand has a thing about bankers which I can understand bit he is really just another demagogue himself

[Old_Geezer]

Nigel Farage had never come across as such to me. Simply someone who realises that out population is too great and so immigration is a foolish thing to continue since it makes matters worse, plus a desire not to have foreign countries have an unjustifiable say in how we run our country. Both points being eminently sensible. For sure he also comes across as right wing, but his is hardly the only party we have where we have to put up with right wing ideology.

[weecalf]

Don't like the overrated programme ,past its sell by date show .Jack Straw spent the whole show once wittering on and making comment about some one else on the panel rather than have to explain his partys failings . Do these who cares who they are or what they have to say get some of my hard earned cash to appear on it.

[ichkeria]

My criticism of Farage is nothing to do with him being right wing. There's nothing wrong with that per se. I don't even have a problem with him believing that the country is overcrowded etc or that the EU is not good for Britain. I happen to disagree strongly but that is beside the point.
The problem with him for me is that he expresses his views in divisive and jingoistic terms, the M4 delay nonsense being only one of a string of examples. His party attracts a and continues to attracts people who seem to want to turn Britain back to a mythical era from the fifties. None of which is either healthy or indeed possible and it will not end well for him or his party

[Thecorn]

Well said ichkeria tc

[ChillDoubt]

Huge drop in popularity for UKIP...hardly surprising with the week they have had I suppose.
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Odd then mikey that you chose to completely ignore this thread and all the evidence showing Labour voters moving to UKIP at a rate of knots. All the more perplexing when one considers all the info was provided by YouGov!:

http://www.theanswerbank.co.uk/News/Question1385342.html

As for Brand, he was spot on with some views and assessments, hugely wide of the mark with others.
He failed dismally when confronted by the disabled guy in the audience.
Farage answered the questions and left the personal attacks and insults to one side.
Typically running scared, the lady from Labour turned her very first answer into an attack on Farage and lost all credibility in doing so.
The journalist read the writing on the wall when answering the immigration/overcrowding question, in which she basically concurred with Farage and the other audince member who confronted the leftist banshee at the back, who made herself look purely idiotic.

[Gromit]

A pound shop Enoch Powell.

I doubt anyone under 40 will understand that sound bite. They won't know who Enoch Powell was or why he ran a pound shop? The quote is not as clever as Brand thinks it is.
Everyone over 40 will know that it translates as 'Cheap Racist', which I don't think is a very accurate description of Farage. Sure he is xenophobic and a bit of a dinosaur, but not blatantly racist.

[Gromit]

Chill,
// Labour voters moving to UKIP at a rate of knots. //

The Poll and the analysis did not say that.