Abolish The House Of Lords?

[Bobbisox1]

Or reduce them?
These people are unelected and sit sleeping in lovely upholstered leather chairs, have a ‘ smoking’ room, have the best of the best meals and the best ales and spirits all subsidised from the tax payer.....
Whilst not far away on the Thames embankment , lies dozens of homeless people ,

[ToraToraTora]

abolish, replace with elected upper chamber of no more than 200.

[woofgang]

There was an intesting program on I think the beeb last year, showing what it is that they actually do. Its sounded both useful and necessary. As to whether the H of L is the right size or has the right people in it well isn't that what the investigation is about?

[Bobbisox1]

I’ve just heard a valid idea, it was to get rid of all but the ones that are experts in their fields which would would reduce their numbers greatly , the ones left could then tackle certain things like Medical matters and legal matters

[douglas9401]

You can't abolish the House Of Lords without then moving on to the next logical step, dismantle the consortium of state benefit recipients in the big house at the end of The Mall and let's face it, that's not going to happen so can we move on.

[Bobbisox1]

Douglas ,I understand where you’re coming from re Buck House as you’re saying our Royals were ‘unelected too?
Yes, I get that but the fact is they were born into being Royal ( not their fault) is it?

[douglas9401]

Indeed not, but 'being royal' isn't really a thing is it?

Just something that was won through intrigue, cheating and slaughter in centuries past that we've been coditioned to accept as somehow right.

If somebody tried to start such a scheme from scratch today they'd be denounced as money-grabbing charlatans and quite rightly too.

In my humble opinion. :-)

[davebro]

No - but it's their fault they choose to perpetuate it in it's present form (the RF).

[Bobbisox1]

I really was hoping this might be about the HofL, the RF have been scraped over, beaten black n blue on here of late ( sighhhh)

[Apc2604]

Bobbie. There was a question on this same subject on 5th January.

[Ellipsis]

We need a second chamber, just not this second chamber.

My opinion: the House of Lords should be smaller, fixed size and populated by PR. I would use the same election as the Commons, but apply the results using PR; this would to some extent work against tactical voting. The Parliament Act should then be toughened up to take account of a more legitimate Lords.

[Bobbisox1]

Apc, apologies, I did not see it

[Apc2604]

No need for apologies, i just thought you might need to know. I miss all sorts!

[Bobbisox1]

Me too, I a early night person and out about 3 days a week...and a OAP, haha

[andres]

Halve their money or better still do away with it altogether. Then see how many are willing to turn up for the sessions.

[Apc2604]

I'm a night bird!

[Bobbisox1]

I’m 8-10 hr sleepyhead Apc , :0)

[Apc2604]

We need a second chamber, but an elected chamber made up of worldly wise people, and many with experience of industry and commerce and the world of proper work.

[Bobbisox1]

Maybe a meeting of the top people in Commerce once a month would be beneficial to see that our industries are performing

[teacake44]

I'm with you Bobbs, I think they should shut this care home down, sitting about sleeping, eating, and boozing all hours of the day. :0)

[Bobbisox1]

And being paid handsomely for the use of TC