No Smoking In Cars Becomes Law

[trt]

from October 2015, if you have a passenger under 18 years old.

As if the police, haven't got enough to do, unless we are going to have car smoking detectors..

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/smoking-in-vehicles

[tinkerbell23]

Great!

Smoke all you like but dont damage your kids aswell!!x

[ummmm]

Cameras can catch them.

[jno]

they seldom catch people on the phone, goodness knows how they'll catch people having a smoke. But anyone smoking in a car with kids needs a smack. (Anyone smoking in front of other adults may well get one.)

[bunkmoreland]

Unbelievably, my father in law insists on smoking his thin cigars in the house and the car ! No matter if anyone else is there,he says "It is his house,and his right":-(. He smokes over every person that comes into the house and i dread to think how much 2nd hand smoke my mil gets. I have now refused to be in the house when he is there.

[ummmm]

It's true though. It is his house. The only person who has grounds for complaint is your MIL.

[bunkmoreland]

Oh the family know that umm, it's the lack of thought for HER that they all ask him not to do it. He is too stubborn though, his opinion matters the most so they all back down. He's not MY father though, so i've chosen not to indulge him and his smelly smoke anymore.

[ummmm]

I don't blame you. Not only did I live in a very smokey pub I also lived with a man that smoked 80 fags a day.

[trt]

## Cameras can catch them. ##

Doubt it ummmm, would need proof of age, unless they are little ones, and if they are in the back, the camera wouldn't see them.

## The only person who has grounds for complaint is your MIL. ##

Maybe he is trying to give your MIL a hint :-)

[ummmm]

Cameras are getting better nowadays.

[bunkmoreland]

Can't begin to imagine that nowadays! Like my fil's house,everything and every surface must have smelt of smoke,but probably even worse! I've even tasted smoke off a box of chocolates that were open in the room! I was a mild smoker myself,so not a mad anti person!

[ummmm]

Considering it would cost £30 plus a day at today's prices not many people could afford the habit.

[woofgang]

suprised its not already covered by the being in full control of the car thing...eating is and whatever you eat isn't (usually) on fire.

[Old_Geezer]

Regardless of the ability to enforce, it indicates society's disapproval which seems fair enough.

[murraymints]

smelly dirty filthy habit.....I get so angry when I have to push through smokers to get into shops etc..stinking..yeuch !!

[mikey4444]

Tinkerbell has said it all ! Great idea indeed. If stupid parents can't be relied on to look after the health of their kids, than they need to be made to do so.

A few big fines will concentrate the minds wonderfully !

[mikey4444]

Ummm...millions of adults still waste huge sums of money everyday on cigarettes. I meet a chap most mornings when I get my Guardian, who buys 3 packs of cigarettes ! The thick end of £30, as you say.

An aspect of cigarette smoking that isn't discussed very much, is the sheer cost of so doing, and its link with poverty.

To speak plainly, the lower down the socio-economic scale you are in Britain today, the more likely you are to still smoke. Most educated and middle class people no longer smoke. So its obvious that smoking is a major constituent cause of poverty. I live in a relentlessly working class area, and almost all the single mothers I see taking their kids to school are smoking. Add to that the high proportion of the older teenegers that I see smoking on the estate and the prognosis for the future doesn't look good. That 19% to 21% of adults that still continue to smoke on Wales are going to be very difficult to deal with going forward. The easy low-hanging fruit are gone.

[joggerjayne]

"The law does not apply if the driver is 17 years old and is on their own in the car"

So two 17 year old, both smoking, commit an offence?

[RATTER15]

Woof, does the law state that you can't eat whilst driving? I've never heard of that

[murraymints]

if you are eating and drinking you are not in proper control of your vehicle..so yes you can be "done "

[joggerjayne]

Given how difficult it is to tell the age of some teenagers, ans the amount of time security staff spend scrutinising the photos on ID cards, how are the Police supposed to look into the dark interior of a moving car, instantly assess the ages of any non driving occupants, and pull the car over, by which time any cigarette would have vanished out of the window, and the smell is because I sometimes smoke in the car when the children are not here, officer ... repeat for every car the Police see, every day, because it will be the "in fashion" rule of the moment.

The Police must really be looking forward to having to enforce this one.