Automatic Driving Ban

[Dawny2]

If you get 2 lots of 6 points for driving without insurance within two weeks of each other is it an automatic ban?

[Loosehead]

all yours Norman.....

[Reverandfunk]

Lewt me see you get banned if you get over 11 points, so 2 x 6 equals what....

[4getmenot]

Me me me

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[jno]

blimey, you'd think the first one would be a bit of a wake-up call...

[Dawny2]

Thanks.... it is my son who has the points.... he never learns. Someone told him 12 points is not an automatic ban.... just needed to be sure as the letter from the court only said fine plus points.

[4getmenot]

maybe the others have been cleared

[Dawny2]

Can't have cleared.... both offences took place within a month. Thanks anyway. x

[4getmenot]

oh dear

[jno]

well, at least he won't be needing insurance for the length of the ban... but perhaps he might consider taking some out after that? If only for the sake of anyone involved in an accident with him...

[NORMANTHEDOG]

yep,another one for the gallows

[maviscoull]

he would be banned automatically on the totting up procedure.

[Panic Button]

You're mellowing with age Norm.

[Dawny2]

He had only bought the car that day and was driving it home. He got the insurance the next day..... isn't hindsight a wonderful thing.

[chompu]

But you said two offences. Did he buy two cars? Hindsight is a wonderful thing when it's applicable which in this case it isn't. A little foresight was all that was required.

[joko]

so he was driving someone elses car uninsured the first time??

jeez, these get lamer and lamer

[Dawny2]

Yes, his brother's. No excuse.

[NORMANTHEDOG]

hang him from st pauls

[Buenchico]

Norman's must be mellowing in his old age. Just the hanging, Norman, without the drawing and quartering that we'd normally expect you to suggest? ;-)

To actually answer the question:
There is no mandatory requirement for magistrates to impose a driving ban, under the totting up rules, for reaching 12 points. (i.e. a ban is not truly 'automatic'). However, magistrates must impose a ban unless they're presented with a good reason why they should not do so. Any circumstances put before them must be genuinely exceptional to prevent a ban. For example, the fact that someone might lose their job if they're banned from driving is usually not regarded as sufficient grounds for avoiding a ban. If, however, the motorist could show that they would be unable to visit their terminally ill child, in hospital, if a ban was imposed, that might be regarded as sufficient grounds for not imposing a ban.

In practice, your son's chances of avoiding a ban are probably about nil.

Chris

[Dawny2]

Thank you Chris..... you are very knowledgeable..... are you a policeman?

[dot.hawkes]

this thread panicked me cos i read the title and thought there was going to be a ban on driving automatics, (I only drive automatics, only got an autimatic license)