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haven't tried it yet, will be trying today, also will be trying to turn the engine over by hand with spark plugs out (unsuccessful with spark plugs in). I'm beginning to think that either, the water in the water jacket has frozen and cracked the casing causing water to seep through to one of the cylinders....or....my head gasket gone and water has seeped through that way. the car has done 73k miles and head gaskets generally go on 214 at 75k miles so it is a high possibility. :-( then again, i'd prefer the head gasket to be gone than one of the cylinders to be cracked!