cat c write off

[gemz1987]

my partner had a cat c write off in his golf. he had it all fixed and mot and been driving it a while now. if we want to sell it do we need a vic test? cos we were told he didnt at the time. is there any others documents we need regarding the accident?

Category C and Category D Registered Cars

[Buenchico]

The Directgov website doesn't distinguish between categories. It simply states that any vehicle that has been 'written off' by an insurance company requires a VIC check:
http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/BuyingAnd SellingAVehicle/AdviceOnBuyingAndSellingAVehic le/DG_4022107

Phone VOSA on 0870 6060 440 to check whether a VIC marker is set against the vehicle record. If it is, the new owner of the vehicle won't be able to get a registration document and nobody (not even the existing owner) will be able to tax it, until the vehicle has passed a VIC check.

Chris

[NORMANTHEDOG]

all cat a,b and c write offs need a VIC test. if you dont get it done ,no v5 will be issued.

[gemz1987]

we have just recently taxed the car, second time since the 'write off' does this mean that there is not a mark against the car then? thanks for the number, we will call it

[gemz1987]

i have still got the v5. as the insurance was void it did not need to be surrended. it has tax and is able to drive legally, does this mean only need vic for selling? sorry, confused

[Buenchico]

You may have the existing V5 but the DVLA won't issue a new one, to the buyer, without a VIC. I'm surprised that you've managed to tax the vehicle. My statement, that you wouldn't be able to do so, was based on this quote
"If the vehicle is subsequently repaired with the intention of returning it to the road, the DVLA will not issue a new registration document or vehicle excise duty licence until the car passes a VIC"
which was taken from the link I provided above.

My original advice is unchanged. Phone VOSA to ask if there's a VIC marker set against the vehicle record. That advice is derived from the first item, under 'Terms & Conditions' on the VIC application form:
http://www.vosa.gov.uk/vosacorp/repository/App lication%20for%20a%20Vehicle%20Identity%20Chec k%20(VIC%201)%20Sep%202006.pdf

Chris

[gemz1987]

thanks chris, will do so

[gouldc]

The guidelines are a little warped on this subject - I deal specifically with total loss and theft vehicles (insurance claims).

Basically, until you;ve had the VIC done, the DVLA won;t issue any documents for the vehicle (V5, tax reminders), BUT, you can still tax the car using your existing V5 - I know that's not what it says on the official website, but equally, Category A and B vehicles are never meant to re-appear on the road, but a recent run-in I;ve had with VOSA has led me to discover that they don't care anymore, so long as the identity hasn't been tampered with.

So in other words, so long as you have a V5, you can do what you like - hoorah for government legislation making the roads a more dangerous place.

The VIC marker is automatically put on your vehicle's records with the DVLA once your insurance company enter the vehicle on MIAFTR (Motor Insurance Anti-Fraud and Theft Register). All total loss and stolen vehicles should be automatically entered on this register, which in turn alerts VOSA, who then in turn alert the DVLA. This will affect all vehicles categorised as A, B, and C salvage - Cat D's do not need the VIC check.

However, having dealt with a mate of mine who repairs scrapped vehicles, this system is not always in place - I regularly check to see if the car is recorded on MIAFTR, and somethimes they don;t have VIC markers against them even after they've been put on MIAFTR.

Is everyone confused yet? Essentially, don't believe everything they put on government websites : )

[gemz1987]

it was nearly a year ago now. when he had d crash d car was towed away on request of d police as it wasnt able to be drove. d insurance told my partner that they had classified his car as a cat c write off, which if he wanted to he could have back to try and repair. however due to a previous claim 4 years ago that they deemed suspiscious as my partner and the witness were fifteen minutes different on there timing they said they would not pay out, nice of them to tell us 4 years later and after insuring him again... anyway he had only had d car a few months so he took it back and repaired it. because d insurance had been declaired void he didnt need to surrender any papers. the car was fixed, mot and tax were put on and he got insurance and told he could now use the car, that was about 6 months ago.we was told by d mechanic that mot it that it didnt need a vic test as we still had the log book

[gemz1987]

cos wen they was processing this claim they looked at a past one, cos the times of my partners statement didint match the witnesses they said they thought he was lying about the date too, as his car had been uninsured 4 2 days d week b4 while e changed his insurance company, they thought it'd happened while e wernt insured, which it didnt it was as e said in d statement. but because it had been paid at the time they said they weren't payin this claim, so insurance was void and he kept d car 2 repair it