In My Forty-Plus Years As A Music Writer ...

[andy-hughes]

… I have seen more than my fair share of classic songs butchered beyond redemption - but I wonder if anything is going to eclipse this!

[Tuvok]

Glad you liked it. He's classically trained, but singes ih a heavy metal group.

Somewhere on YouTube there is an interview with him about the song - worth watching.

[royfromaus]

Why on earth would a stranger ask a woman if a story about having a mars bars eaten from her vagina was true or not?

[andy-hughes]

roy - // Why on earth would a stranger ask a woman if a story about having a mars bars eaten from her vagina was true or not? //

If that question is a result of my comments that I had a conversation with Marianne Faithful - I didn't ask her, I would never be so crass - she brought up the subject unprompted by me.

[royfromaus]

I thought you would say that.

Bizarre.

[Theland]

Wow! Every time I say something that could be construed as controversial, the tut tut brigade pull out my, ''rap,'' sheet, (pun intended), and read me the riot act.

''It shouldn't be allowed!''

'' I agree with him, it shouldn't be allowed!''

''Yeah! Me too! Someone should do something!''

'' Hang him! Someone get a rope!''

[Mamyalynne]

Oh do stop it, don't be ridiculous - would do you good to revisit some of the rot you've posted.

Then apologise and mean it.

[Theland]

I make no secret of my affection for my country and culture, and the fact that I am dismayed at the influences of immigrant cultures becoming more dominant.
But racist?
No, culturalist, yes, but not racist.
Neither am I a fan of multiculturalism, black history being imposed in our schools, increased diversity, as in the BBC spending an extra £100m to increase it, politicians playing the race card, as in Lammy, Butler and Abbott.
But don't accuse me of racism.

[andy-hughes]

royfromaus - // I thought you would say that.

Bizarre. //

What's 'bizarre' about it?

Would you prefer me to lie about the conversation?

I know that would fit with your negative image of me, but obviously I'm not keen on facilitating you in that.

I said what happened, if you think that is 'bizarre', you crack on with it.

[andy-hughes]

Theland - // I make no secret of my affection for my country and culture, and the fact that I am dismayed at the influences of immigrant cultures becoming more dominant.
But racist?
No, culturalist, yes, but not racist.
Neither am I a fan of multiculturalism, black history being imposed in our schools, increased diversity, as in the BBC spending an extra £100m to increase it, politicians playing the race card, as in Lammy, Butler and Abbott.
But don't accuse me of racism. //

Any chance of an answer to my question?

[Mozz71]

//Neither am I a fan of multiculturalism//

Why not? We've been stealing our culture from other nations since the middle ages. Our fables and stories are taken from the Germanic people, Norse mythology, our Patron Saint is a Greek born, Roman waerior.

//black history being imposed in our schools//

Hostory is history, regardless of which race it concerns. Children should learn about Rosa Parks/Martin Luther King/Apartheid etc as much as they should about the World Wars/the Monarchy/Churchill et al. Don't try and whitewash histpry, there is room for all.

//Increased diversity, as in the BBC spending an extra £100m to increase it politicians playing the race card, as in Lammy, Butler and Abbott.//

Oh no, more brown faces on Eastenders. Shocking.

If a politician has suffered from racism, they should speak up, just like anybody else should.

//But don't accuse me of racism//

If it looks like a duck, and sounds like a duck... (Stealing Andy's phrasing, but it seems appropriate)

[naomi24]

I don't like rap either - not because it emanates from an imported culture - but because it's repetitive and it grates on me. Additionally many of the people performing seem like halfwits to me with what appears to be their determination to mangle the English language. I quite like some of the lyrics spoken as poetry though.

[Peter Pedant]

// would do you good to revisit some of the rot you've posted.//
er
are we taking ourselves too seriously this evening
this is a thread about covers which have sort of killed the original

that reminds me
I rememeber Perry Como butchering Tiptoe froo da Tulips
The tempo was slow enough so that he could converse with the lyrics

Tiptoe thro the toolips - I would be delighted
with me - - of course

like an awful AB thread with everyone contributing their fave one liners and put downs

[tonyav]

I don't like rap either, for similar reasons, naomi.

[Peter Pedant]

// Why not? We've been stealing our culture from other nations since the middle ages.//

yeah my dear papa was teased by the German guards in POW camp ( there really was so little to do for give years)
German composers - we have them all the centuries
you english - Purcell - Handel was German anyway and then nothing until the twentieth century .....

[If somoene wants to delete this as not consonant with the level of the rest of this thread please go ahead]

[Mamyalynne]

Peter, if you can read the thread linked to earlier and not be annoyed then you have more patience than I do and I have often been told I am too patient.

Then again you may not care.

I was disgusted at the time and it still rattles me.

[jno]

there are worse versions, PP

[Mozz71]

I can give or take rap. I like the lyrical skill and humour or acts like Eminem, Run DMC, De La Soul and Digital Underground, but can't see the appeal of the current Grime movement.

But this is just personal taste, nothing wrong with liking or disliking a genre based on the actual music involved. I'm sure we all like and dislike different things.

[tonyav]

Ohhhhh, no need for that jno.

[THECORBYLOON]

THELAND, what is it about rap music you hate?

[sanmac]

I don't know if this is considered to be rap or not, but I met these guys back in the '80s at Churchill's Bar on Gloucester Ave in Montego Bay and sorta liked their music. I even bought a signed cassette tape off
them:)