Nhs Skint

[New Judge]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-58417076

**Services may have to be cut unless NHS England receives an extra £10bn in funding next year, groups representing the health service have warned.**

I can help them a little. A close relative of mine received a letter from her GP inviting her to have a shingles jab. This was on 27th August. She made an appointment for today and arrived as instructed. "I'm not ready to give you your jab" says the nurse, "because you are not yet 70."

"But you invited me. The letter said nothing about being over 70. If that's the case why did you send the letter? In any case you took my date of birth when I made the appointment. Anyway, I'm 70 in three days' time so it should be alright, surely."

"Sorry. I'll make you another appointment."

"No you ****ing won't. You've wasted enough of my time and of taxpayers' money. I'll take my chances."

So, an appointment wasted. A letter wasted. Nurse's time wasted. Patient untreated. "The envy of the world?"

[ToraToraTora]

cut managers then. The NHS does not need money it needs to be run like a proper business.

[ToraToraTora]

the idea of an NHS is the envy of the world. The current implementation of it is the problem.

[jno]

then the nurse should be drummed out of the NHS and, with that anecdotal evidence dealt with, the NHS will once again be perfect.

Sorted!

[douglas9401]

I've been thinking for a while now that that's what's coming down the line, Tora.

A revised system, maybe similar to Australia where it's subsidised but not 'free' for all where you pay at the desk when you check in.
The upside is that the doctor will treat you instead of fobbing you off with some far-off date that fits in with their grand plan for rectification of your problem.

It was apparently a painful transition from what they had before but I've used the system and it worked.

Clearly in all of this though, the same incompetents can't be left in charge, whether at the top or locally.

[ToraToraTora]

No it should be free as now, just run efficiently. It's now full of empire building managers rather than people doing medical things.

[pat2604]

It's not money they need. It needs rehashing. The system is completely disjointed. Money won't do that.

[ToraToraTora]

we need to give to to a proper businessman to sort out.

[ToraToraTora]

yes pat, bang on, money just makes more inefficiency. YMB be along soon to tell you his NHS horror stories.

[pat2604]

And I'm stuck in the middle of this system! Hence forking out for private care and action to hopefully avoid being completely immobile.

[jno]

you have to pay to see a doctor though. I think I paid $30 odd when I saw a doctor in Sydney (as a tourist) years ago; I expect it's more now. If Sydneysiders have to fork out money to see a GP whose wages they're already paying, and the only upside is they get to see him today (probably), do they think this is a good thing?

[naomi24]

I agree. It’s not money - it’s management.

[teacake44]

My doctors phoned me up the day after my second covid jab to say there was a shingles jab available for me to have the following day. My question was is it wise to have that straight after the covid jab. ( Rightly or wrongly) I had this vision of my blood cells fighting for pole position. The answer I got was, quote, its up to you, if you think its not right to go ahead yet. I mean were do you go from there??

[naomi24]

Make a decision. Have it now or later. As they said, it’s up to you.

[teacake44]

That answer advice didn't come from a doctor.

[naomi24]

Ask your doctor.

[Mamyalynne]

//You can have a shingles vaccine at the same time as most other vaccines. But try to leave 7 days between the shingles vaccine and a coronavirus (COVID-19) vaccine, so that if you have any side effects you'll know which vaccine they were from.//

Source
NHS

[teacake44]

Thank you mam. May be if the receptionist had given that advice then I wouldn't have been left in the dark, or if she didn't know the answer, taken the time to ask a doctor.

[Mamyalynne]

Agreed.

[gulliver1]

What happened to the weekly donation the NHS was told to expect from Boris's Bus, was it £350m PW he promised if every person he radicalised voted Brexit .
....You were Conned by the chief Con.... .

[Peter Pedant]

probably wouldnt get paid if she gave a jabbo outside govt guidelines and probably WOULD get paid if she did the jab three days later