Nhs Skint

[New Judge]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-58417076

**Services may have to be cut unless NHS England receives an extra £10bn in funding next year, groups representing the health service have warned.**

I can help them a little. A close relative of mine received a letter from her GP inviting her to have a shingles jab. This was on 27th August. She made an appointment for today and arrived as instructed. "I'm not ready to give you your jab" says the nurse, "because you are not yet 70."

"But you invited me. The letter said nothing about being over 70. If that's the case why did you send the letter? In any case you took my date of birth when I made the appointment. Anyway, I'm 70 in three days' time so it should be alright, surely."

"Sorry. I'll make you another appointment."

"No you ****ing won't. You've wasted enough of my time and of taxpayers' money. I'll take my chances."

So, an appointment wasted. A letter wasted. Nurse's time wasted. Patient untreated. "The envy of the world?"

[ToraToraTora]

mozz it's a statement followed by a proposition. end of.

[Atheist]

Mozz; see what I mean?

[THECORBYLOON]

It's a false statement.

[naomi24]

Yes, let’s have some honesty. It was a good suggestion but Boris wasn’t in a position to promise anything because he wasn’t prime minister which is why it wasn’t a promise and never worded as such. Anyone who thinks it was needs not only to examine their ability to comprehend plain English but their ability to understand how government works. Years on and this claptrap remains claptrap.

[ToraToraTora]

I have a thousand pounds should I put it on a horse? Same thing, see? You remoaners should learn English.

[Mozz71]

Tora, your quote is a question, not a proposition. A roposition is a statement of opinion or judgement. "Let's spend it on our NHS" is indeed a proposition, but why is it one that hasn't come to fruition? Why make such a comment if you have no intention of following through? (Answer: to gain leave votes)

[Atheist]

Weasel words from Naomi and TTT! You are both so blinded by your loyalty to the nasty right that you can't even see what hypocrites you are. If a Labour or Remain bus had had a statement as brazen as the Brexiteers' you would have had a field day slagging them off for years.

[ToraToraTora]

ok "I spend £350m on groceries every week should I fund a coke habit instead? "

[ToraToraTora]

no athiest I am just adhering to English, show me where there is a promise to spend £350m a week on the NHS, that's all I ask.

[Mozz71]

Tora, do you deny that it was a delierately misleading statement in order to gain Leave votes?

[ToraToraTora]

mozz: "but why is it one that hasn't come to fruition? Why make such a comment if you have no intention of following through? (Answer: to gain leave votes) " - we spend much much more than that and I believe the PM has just announced another £13bn which actually equates to £250m a week by itself so I'd say that even though it was only a suggestion it has more or less been carried out.

[ToraToraTora]

20:14, only to the illiterate. Both sides used their resources to fight for their view. You had project fear. You lost, get over it.

[Atheist]

Do you remember when Farridge said that if the vote were to be 52/48 in favour of remain, it wouldn't be the end of the battle? He soon changed his tune when it was the other way round. The people of this country deserved a more intelligent and adult approach to such a very important and complex issue, and all they got was a shambles, followed by nasty gloating by the 'winners' who have since shown no interest in working towards uniting the country, but have simply crowed and insulted the 'losers' by using inflammatory terms like 'Remoaners'. Even the schoolyard of my youth was more mature than you lot.

[ToraToraTora]

Athiest: "Do you remember when Farridge said that if the vote were to be 52/48 in favour of remain, it wouldn't be the end of the battle?" - why would it? The party was called UKIP, the clue is in the name, it's very reason for being is to achieve UK independence.

[ToraToraTora]

athiest: "TTT, I used to think you just nasty; now I realise I was wrong; you are also stupid. " - brain exhausted then? no arguments left? resort to nastiness. I win.

[ToraToraTora]

athiest: "The people of this country deserved a more intelligent and adult approach to such a very important and complex issue, and all they got was a shambles" - I agree, why did no one tell us anything good about the EUSSR rather than concentrating on trying to frighten us? ", followed by nasty gloating by the 'winners' who have since shown no interest in working towards uniting the country" - err we are not the ones still moaning and siding with foreigners over everything, why don't you join us as we make this work?, " but have simply crowed and insulted the 'losers' by using inflammatory terms like 'Remoaners'." - you made that popular yourselves by err moaning all the time.

[Atheist]

TTT; keep on digging.

I suspect that you would win the first prize for posting insulting epithets on AB. Most of your political or religious posts refer to anyone left of you as nasty lefties or terrorists. You try to use the 'banter' card to excuse your antagonistic tone. You hide behind childish acronyms to try to avoid being found guilty of provocative terms. You accuse people of being trolls or UK haters just because they dare to have different views from you. And now I expect you will be offended that I have dared to express my honest views on your behaviour.

[Mozz71]

Tora, if there's one thing you should know about me and Brexit, is that I am over it, I even said (19:44) that it doesn't change the outcome. However, that doesn't mean that I shouldn't question the motives of the Leave movement, lead by the man who is now PM. And please keep things respectful, as I have tried to do. You're not talking to Gulliver anymore.

[ToraToraTora]

athiest: "TTT; keep on digging. " - I'm not the one who is squirming with nastiness having had all my arguments demolished with simple logic. You keep digging me old china.