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Should donated organs go to foreigners?
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http://www.dailyexpress.co.uk/posts/view/78437 /Organs-we-donate-go-to-foreigners
If one did not wish this to happen, then a way round this could be a clause on the donor card, stating that the organ or organs should only go to a British NHS patient.
If one did not wish this to happen, then a way round this could be a clause on the donor card, stating that the organ or organs should only go to a British NHS patient.
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So perhaps you do not also care who your estate goes to when you die, isn't this why one leaves a will?
Reverting back to the donor question, if one of your family needed an organ transplant, I don't supose you would be also bothered, if you knew that the only one available in the UK had gone to someone from China for example?
Perhaps it is you that needs help.
Reverting back to the donor question, if one of your family needed an organ transplant, I don't supose you would be also bothered, if you knew that the only one available in the UK had gone to someone from China for example?
Perhaps it is you that needs help.
No I wouldnt care I dont give a crap about what happens when I die!
I hope if have children there will be someone there to look after them but as far as my organs, not one iota of care from me.
in fact I'd quite happily write on my donor card theat my organs are only for foreigners- just to mix it up a little!
I hope if have children there will be someone there to look after them but as far as my organs, not one iota of care from me.
in fact I'd quite happily write on my donor card theat my organs are only for foreigners- just to mix it up a little!
Well since we're going into it Git why dont we go one step further! You obviously can't see the absurdity in your idea so lets delve into your ignorance.
Why stop at foreigners?
you hate:
immigrants
scottish people
'Lefties'
The labour party
would you be happy to donate to Gordon Brown for example?
What about someone who has lived in this country 20 or 30 years?
How long before they are called British and are allowed one of Anotheoldegits organs?
Why stop at foreigners?
you hate:
immigrants
scottish people
'Lefties'
The labour party
would you be happy to donate to Gordon Brown for example?
What about someone who has lived in this country 20 or 30 years?
How long before they are called British and are allowed one of Anotheoldegits organs?
if me or a member of my family ever needed a transplant i would happily take a chinamans organ ( no jokes please ).
what i wouldnt agree on was if because the person was paying top whack and going private then they were getting perferencial treatment over someone via the nhs, that is wrong. i think it should be the most needy person gets the organ regardless of race,nationality,wealth.
what i wouldnt agree on was if because the person was paying top whack and going private then they were getting perferencial treatment over someone via the nhs, that is wrong. i think it should be the most needy person gets the organ regardless of race,nationality,wealth.
You can't start putting exclusion clauses on donor cards.
1. We cannot store donated organs, so they have to be transplanted as and when available.
2. In the UK, the NHSBT explicitly recognise the need to offer a valuable gift such as a donated organ to the person in greatest need of said organ, subject to recipients health status and availability, compatibility etc.
3. Sometimes, such a match might not be made with an NHS patient - but a foreign/private patient might be an ideal match. If we implemented your clause, AOG, you would deny such a patient a potentially life saving organ transplant - the organ would instead go completely to waste - Is that something you would prefer to see?
4. Nowhere in that article does it explicitly state that an NHS donor was denied a transplant and a foreign/ private patient was given priority instead when there was an NHS patient equally in need of said transplant and equally available/compatible.
5. Of the approximately 3,300 Organ transplants carried out in 2008, we are talking about 40 transplants to foreign/private patients.
6. The UK has approximately 8,000 patients on the waiting list for organ transplant at any given time (mostly kidney), with around 1,000 or so patients dying before they get their transplant. This is not because foreign/private patients are being prioritized, but rather that we have insufficient donors. - How many people do you personally know that carry the donor card?
1. We cannot store donated organs, so they have to be transplanted as and when available.
2. In the UK, the NHSBT explicitly recognise the need to offer a valuable gift such as a donated organ to the person in greatest need of said organ, subject to recipients health status and availability, compatibility etc.
3. Sometimes, such a match might not be made with an NHS patient - but a foreign/private patient might be an ideal match. If we implemented your clause, AOG, you would deny such a patient a potentially life saving organ transplant - the organ would instead go completely to waste - Is that something you would prefer to see?
4. Nowhere in that article does it explicitly state that an NHS donor was denied a transplant and a foreign/ private patient was given priority instead when there was an NHS patient equally in need of said transplant and equally available/compatible.
5. Of the approximately 3,300 Organ transplants carried out in 2008, we are talking about 40 transplants to foreign/private patients.
6. The UK has approximately 8,000 patients on the waiting list for organ transplant at any given time (mostly kidney), with around 1,000 or so patients dying before they get their transplant. This is not because foreign/private patients are being prioritized, but rather that we have insufficient donors. - How many people do you personally know that carry the donor card?
I'd be personally happy to donate my organs to anyone who needed them, irrespective of age, gender, race or ethnicity, just as I was very grateful recently to all ther wonderful, and no doubt multi ethnic, people who donated the blood they used when I had recent brain surgery.
Grow up old git, in the big scheme of things we're all human beings and our lives are all worth an equal amount, surely you can see that and just give someone... anyone... the gift of life after you die without begrudging them something that precious because they don't happen to be ' British' ( whatever your definition of that is)?
Grow up old git, in the big scheme of things we're all human beings and our lives are all worth an equal amount, surely you can see that and just give someone... anyone... the gift of life after you die without begrudging them something that precious because they don't happen to be ' British' ( whatever your definition of that is)?
Way to go.
Organ donation is a final act of kindness, a gesture that leaves a philanthropic glow as you make you way to the pearly gates.
I'm sure St Peter would love to see you've clung onto petty prejudices even in your dying breath. Yep, it'd warm the cockles of his heart, just as it does the rest of us.
Organ donation is a final act of kindness, a gesture that leaves a philanthropic glow as you make you way to the pearly gates.
I'm sure St Peter would love to see you've clung onto petty prejudices even in your dying breath. Yep, it'd warm the cockles of his heart, just as it does the rest of us.
AOG
Are you aware that this country imports blood from abroad (and presumably this saves many lives). During the CJD scare, babies and young children were banned from being treated with UK blood and could only be given imported blood (because it was deemed safer than our own).
Would your ban cover imported donor organs and products?
Are you aware that this country imports blood from abroad (and presumably this saves many lives). During the CJD scare, babies and young children were banned from being treated with UK blood and could only be given imported blood (because it was deemed safer than our own).
Would your ban cover imported donor organs and products?
I posted a question some time ago whether you could insist they go to NHS patients as I don't think it fair that someone who can jump the NHS queue assumes priority for that organ.
This added bombshell about them going to foreign receipients can only deter prospective donors ever contributing.
The new fact that NHS surgeons who are involved in this foreign arrangement gets �20,000 to take part needs special attention.
This added bombshell about them going to foreign receipients can only deter prospective donors ever contributing.
The new fact that NHS surgeons who are involved in this foreign arrangement gets �20,000 to take part needs special attention.
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