Bnp's Ringing Endorsement Of Ukip !

[mikey4444]

There are people here on AB that have questioned me on my use of "BNP-lite" for UKIP. Here is a recent broadcast on the BNP TV Channel ( ! ) :::

http://www.bnp.org.uk/news/national/artificial-ukip-phenomenon

[doctordb]

Has ukip given a ringing endorsement for the Bnp?

[naomi24]

Mikey, it may have escaped your notice, but the BNP's endorsement of UKIP - which amounts to jumping on what they see as a bandwagon - doesn't automatically assume that UKIP endorses the BNP, and I actually think it's insulting to suggest it does. You rationale is awry.

[naomi24]

Another thought. You've played right into the BNP's hands. That's exactly what they want you to think.

[ludwig]

It's probably more the fact that you're always on about them that people find odd mikey. It's almost like giving them a relevance that they don't actually have.

[emmie]

that is also what i don;t understand, you are giving them air time, why...

[mikey4444]

Don't get me wrong. In a way I think that BNP-lite are wonderful, because in the 2015 General Election they are more likely to take votes away from the Tories than Labour.

Its BNP-lite, or UKIP if you will, that keeps Dave awake at nights, not the opposition front bench.

[doctordb]

Why does the BNP seem to do well in areas that are traditionally labour?

[emmie]

ta da ^^

[naomi24]

Mikey, no one has got you wrong. Your rationale is awry.

[FredPuli43]

Because, doctorb, the BNP appeals to the disaffected working class who are most likely to be Labour voters and who are also the ones who feel most affected by immigration past and present.

[emmie]

they have been the ones who perceive their have lost out on jobs, housing, and so forth to foreigners... that of course is another debate...

[doctordb]

That's my point Fred. The majority of people inclined to join the BNP come from the left wing.

[emmie]

no they are not, left wing would be the like Unite against fascism types, and so called guardian readers, college students and anyone indeed who doesn't care for the BNP, or UKIP

[sp1814]

emmie

Those are quite...errr...'broad strokes'.

[doctordb]

How about 'The majority of people inclined to join the BNP come from labour' ?

[DrFilth]

is it ok to class the tory/libs as nazi-lite over there treatment of the sick. before you hit the keyboard read this

my mates friend has a brother in a home needing 24 hour care, all his food has to be put in a blender and spoon fed and he even has to have his bum cleaned for him, the lot, he has got to the stage in his illness where soon his food will go in through a tube. he is basically a vegetable

now under the tory/libs nazi-lite orders they want him in for a medical or will stop his benefits.

the brother has explained his condition , the dwp know the nursing home he is in as they sent the letter to the home, but rules are rules and he must attend the medical

this lot in power have a lot in common with the nazis

http://www.ushmm.org/museum/exhibit/focus/disabilities/

[Old_Geezer]

I won't be able to watch videos in work, but it occurs to me that of course any party with no chance of getting into power will be inclined to approve of any other party that has some similarity of view with some aspect of what they want. It doesn't mean a comparison is reasonable. One might as well just polarise every party into a couple of camps and have done with it.

[naomi24]

DrFilth, I'd like to see the letter.

[ichkeria]

It's a class thing. UKIP tend to attract the genteel or geriatric xenophobic vote :-)
The BNP got their support from working clas voters because their (the BNP's) pure racist agenda led them to target ethnic minorities and exploit the perception that they're 'taking all our jobs' etc as well as of course attracting the actual racists.
UKIP seem to have a lot of members who are really ultra-free market Tories as well as oddities like Godfrey Bloom. Most of their vote seems to come from 'traditionalists' disappointed by what they perceive as a disappointingly liberal Tory Party. So calling them BNP lite is probably inaccurate but with xenophobia and racism encouraged by tough economic times and a rabid tabloid press they are also benefitting from their anti EU stance by now appearing to be the party favoured by some previous BNP supporters

[humbersloop]

^^^ what does //so called guardian reader// mean? You either read it or you don't.

So?