Is London An English City?

[spathiphyllum]

"Since day one since day dot i've not changed anything from what i've stood for, to what i've said. Not a single thing "

So the reason he left the ELD was for his reputation, not because his ideology changed. Scum of a man.

[spathiphyllum]

Or do you think that would be considered as inappropriate?

[spathiphyllum]

"the rest were Muslims, Sikhs and Blacks."

Why are you putting black in a list of religions?

[sanmac]

Oh no! Not another thread which is in essence a fulminating rant concerning Tommy Robinson.

[Spicerack]

You didn't say it was inappropriate the first time, spath.
You said you'd be murdered.

[retrocop]

Sanmac
So far so good but I certainly do not intend wasting my time on this one. The last one appears to have closed prematurely just as I tried to reply to Barmaid's post which I consider bad manners.

[sanmac]

Spath, muslim and sikh are not the names of religions.

[andy-hughes]

sanmac - // Oh no! Not another thread which is in essence a fulminating rant concerning Tommy Robinson. //

The evidence so far shows no sign of any 'rant' (you do love that word don't you!) - but if it does, you are not obliged even to read it, much less take part.

[Atheist]

When I go to a hospital, most of the staff, medical and auxilliary, are also 'foreign looking' or have non-English accents. Where would the NHS be without people like them?

[spathiphyllum]

Sanmac, unfortunately you're wrong. The term Muslims or Muslim can relate to the person, or to their religion. The same with Sikh or christian.

Black is neither a religion, nor the follower of a religion. It's a colour. It has no placement in the list "Muslims, Sikhs".. Etc..

[spathiphyllum]

"Where would the NHS be without people like them?"

It is a fact that there would not be one.

[anotheoldgit]

spathiphyllum

/// "the rest were Muslims, Sikhs and Blacks." ///

/// Why are you putting black in a list of religions? ///

Oh dear what rule have I broken now, is it an offence to put the word Black in a list of religions?

Don't be such a 'snow flake' it was just a way that I could describe them, I recognised them by their dress and since most Blacks dress in Western clothes I could only describe them by their obvious skin colour.

[sanmac]

Yes, I have rather taken a liking to the word 'rant'. I suppose it's somewhat akin to some people's penchant for the word 'opine'.

[spathiphyllum]

you've not broken a rule.. but it's a classic childhood "which is the odd one out" game..
Apple, orange, Car Keys

Cake, Croissant, shoe

Muslims, Sikhs, Black people...

Do you not see the issue? You talk from a position of superiority when you feel you're allowed to class colour (specifically one that isn't of your own heritage) into groups of people you deem different to yourself.

We're all the same AOG colour doesn't define us. Being Islamic does, being black does not.

[andy-hughes]

AOG - // Oh dear what rule have I broken now, is it an offence to put the word Black in a list of religions? //

It's not an 'offence', but it is inaccurate.

[spathiphyllum]

AOG you see blacks differently to how you see yourself. You feel white people have a placement in England and all black people have come from elsewhere, giving you the sense you're hosting them. You're not. We live here as equals.

[spathiphyllum]

I'm not saying you're a racist AOG. I don't think you'd want to cause harm to someone or treat someone differently due to their skin colour, but I am saying you wrongly categorise black people into situations that their skin colour is moot because of crime statistics.

[anotheoldgit]

Atheist

/// Where would the NHS be without people like them? ///

Quite agree, these are the valuable skilled immigrants that we should welcome into our country, but unfortunately for the benefit of our country they are sadly in the minority.

[anotheoldgit]

spathiphyllum

/// "Where would the NHS be without people like them?" ///

/// It is a fact that there would not be one. ///

We managed quite well, if not better when the NHS was first formed, could the problem be now that there are far too many people who have never paid into the system taking advantage of our once World renowned NHS?

[spathiphyllum]

the population is much bigger now AOG we've moved a long way.


Or do you wish the UK had the same healthcare that was available in 1948???

[spathiphyllum]

"When the NHS was founded in 1948, the life expectancy for men was 66, and for women, 71. Today those figures are 77.2 and 81.5. Over the past 60 years, the proportion of all deaths caused by cancer has risen, from 16.9 to 27 per cent."

The reason for that is because people aren't dieing of other things. Not because there is more cancer and heart disease. (even thought tbf there probably is with these ready meals and processed foods)