Is London An English City?

[spathiphyllum]

"Since day one since day dot i've not changed anything from what i've stood for, to what i've said. Not a single thing "

So the reason he left the ELD was for his reputation, not because his ideology changed. Scum of a man.

[spathiphyllum]

and that was from over ten year ago ^

[Atheist]

AOG, do you have figures to support your apparent view that most immigrants are unskilled, or that they don't pay their tax, or that they get more benefits than 'native' people? Or are you just repeating what 'bloke down the pub' says?

[anotheoldgit]

spathiphyllum

/// We're all the same AOG colour doesn't define us. Being Islamic does, being black does not. ///

Oh so you are in a room and three other people are in there, one obviously dressed in Muslim clothes, one dressed as a typical Sikh and one who is obviously Black and you were told to go over and talk to the Black person, would you be puzzled who to go over to?

[spathiphyllum]

Well, unlike other countries, you can come to the UK without a skill or something to bring to the country.. But if you want to go to canada say.. you'd have to bring a skil lto the table that they need. I don't think the UK have this, so by that logic, AOG is probally correct.

However, AOG is probably forgetting all the scummy white benefit scroungers in council estates in the UK that, if anything take things away from our society financially, physically and metaphorically in the sense of our image.

Harry brown, good film to get an ideology of how colour aint nothing. Same as Front Line, or even The Bill? LOL

[spathiphyllum]

"Oh so you are in a room and three other people are in there, one obviously dressed in Muslim clothes, one dressed as a typical Sikh and one who is obviously Black and you were told to go over and talk to the Black person, would you be puzzled who to go over to?"

No.

I did not mean physically.

I mean it doesn't define what's on the inside and i think you know that but i would understand if not i didn't make it too clear.

[Atheist]

Probably all three would be brown-skinned, in which case I'd be puzzled. Apparently we're supposed to call all people 'of colour' black; which is not in my view a good use of language.

[spathiphyllum]

religion is not bound by colour. Mixing the two is dangerous and annoying.

[Atheist]

Using the word 'black' to describe e.g. Barak Obama or Meghan Markle is in my view worrying. It's as though black is a sort of taint, and if there is a trace of it showing in a fairly pale person then they get labelled as black.

[anotheoldgit]

spathiphyllum

/// the population is much bigger now AOG we've moved a long
way. ///

Exactly all due to the introduction of Mass Immigration, the indigenous population tend to have less children now.

Mass immigration has had a shown effect on the whole infrastructure of this small Island of ours, shortage of housing shortage of schools larger number of pupils in those schools and of course a strain on our NHS also an increase in crime.

Can you deny it?

[anotheoldgit]

Atheist

Excuse me but aren't most mixed race people ie one black parent and one white parent, proud to call themselves black and mostly tend to follow black traditions?

[spathiphyllum]

Is there a housing shortage though? Its more an affordable housing shortage,, because most of our younger indigenous people are lazy, can't get jobs (due to their attitude) and are, frankly rather stupid. If i do say so myself.

[spathiphyllum]

"Can you deny it?"

No i've not got the knowledge but i also can't prove it. But i agree yes immigration has affected general population of our country, but i'm talking about world wide AOG. Population hasn't just risen in the UK has it?

[Atheist]

AOG, I don't particularly like the fact that mixed race people often call themselves 'black'; I suspect it's because they tend to be treated as 'other' by xenophobes, and they react by asserting themselves in a 'proud' way. A bit like gay pride - they shouldn't need to be 'proud' of what they are, any more than I am 'proud' to be 'white'. We're all human beings who are born the way we are and that's that. Are you proud of your colour?

[spathiphyllum]

" they shouldn't need to be 'proud' of what they are, any more than I am 'proud' to be 'white'."

Boom 100000000000000000% agree

[retrocop]

//because most of our younger indigenous people are lazy, can't get jobs (due to their attitude) and are, frankly rather stupid. If i do say so myself.//

Really Spath
What on earth would convince me to go along with your line of thinking?

[naomi24]

atheist, //I don't particularly like the fact that mixed race people often call themselves 'black'//

They clearly like it. Otherwise they wouldn't do it.

[anotheoldgit]

Atheist

/// Are you proud of your
colour? ///

As a white person, one has to be careful these days, in case one is labelled a White Supremacist. Even being a patriot in one's own country, is frowned upon

[dannyk13]

AOG //Even being a patriot in one's own country, is frowned upon//
By whom?

[anotheoldgit]

spathiphyllum

/// because most of our younger indigenous people are lazy, can't get jobs (due to their attitude) and are, frankly rather stupid. If i do say so myself. ///

That remark is disgustingly racist towards the white youth of this country.

If you disagree, try replacing the word 'Black' instead of 'indigenous', and see what kind of response you would get.

[ummmm]

What a horrible statement to make Spath!!! Shame on you!