You Have To Laugh

[teacake44]

Or cry may be at some of the statements Matt Hancock comes out with. They are now going to close most of the nightingales in April, he says that these hospitals have played a critical role. My question , how can staff less empty hospitals have played a critical role? I'm confused.

[dannyk13]

One of the nightingale hospitals is being put to good use, maybe others will follow.
https://www.bmj.com/content/372/bmj.n15

[teacake44]

Porkies again^^^^

[emmie]

the ones i know about volunteered for the Nightingales, i don't know the ins and outs, but they said they were ready to join in.

[ToraToraTora]

They were there in case the NHS got overwhelmed! You'd be the first one having fit if they'd have been needed and not there.

[emmie]

they are being shut aren't they?

[bobbinwales]

You've singled out Hancock Teacake and maybe he's not been the best for this crisis but your criticsms never seem to extend to the Scottish or Welsh goverments who also had Nightingales (tho may have been called something else in Scotland.
Scotland reused this one
https://www.nursingtimes.net/news/hospital/scotlands-temporary-covid-19-hospital-to-be-used-for-nurse-training-05-07-2020/
Some in England were used for vaccinnations

[ToraToraTora]

you have to laugh! PMSL!

[alavahalf]

"I'm confused."..

Don't get upset.. we are used to it and we understand !!

[gulliver1]

No doubt Stanley Johnson ,or someone related to Matt Hanckock, owned the land or had shares in the Company who built them.

[teacake44]

So no one knows then how these staff less hospitals played a critical role?? If you have no answer to that one then, did his pub mate play a critical role with the awarded 30 million??

[emmie]

TC has a valid point, they could all be used to vaccinate the populace, unless some are too far from where people can get to them, like the London one is in Vauxhall i think? i wouldn't want to schlep all the way out there, when the surgery is doing such a good job.

[bobbinwales]

They werent all 'staff less'. Some were staffed and played an important role, maybe hard to justify the term critical, but important yes. They might of been 'critical' if cases were higher but fortunately were'nt . They were critical in terms of peace of mind. You criticized for underplanning on PPE and criticize for overplanning on contingencies for beds/wards.

[dannyk13]

Bob, certain people on this site do nothing else but criticise,usually without any basis for it.

[teacake44]

Would you like to show me when and where they were used bobb. Like gully says, lots of mates have been on the books for sure, sorry off the books. The Pharmaceutical furniture business is very expensive and lucrative to investors, be interesting who's got such investments.

[bobbinwales]

Cant be bothered wasting time for you looking for links except to say danny's already did one, one was used for flu jabs and one for vaccinne testing and according to the Metro a few months ago "As of December 30, MailOnline reports that 28 Covid patients are currently receiving treatment at Exeter’s Nightingale hospital." and
"just over 50 were treated at NHS Nightingale Hospital London and just over 100 at Manchester."

[bobbinwales]

In Wales its Rainbow hospitals. One here teacake https://bcuhb.nhs.wales/news/health-board-news/an-additional-15-beds-to-open-at-deesides-rainbow-hospital/

Best answer for me? Am glad to have put you right

[woofgang]

o god I have said this before. They aren't and were never intended to be "real" hospitals. They were designed and built to be giant ITU units where the minimum number of specialist staff could use untrained or non specialist teams to manage the maximum number of intubated patients in case the worst happened. They don't have the usual catering and bathroom facilities of hospitals because intubated patients don't need them. They were a worst case scenario and we should all be down on our knees thanking god (other deities are available or none if you prefer) that they weren't needed.

[woofgang]

PS if they had any sense, they rented the equipment and the components of the buildings.

[ToraToraTora]

TC: "So no one knows then how these staff less hospitals played a critical role??" - I know and I explained above, there primary function was to act as spare capacity should the NHS get overwhelmed. If they had not been there and the NHS was indeed overwhelmed then you'd have been having a gammon moment about that.

[ToraToraTora]

woofgang 14:48 for BA!