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A tad patronising?
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The House Of Commons is acknowledged as one of the last great bastions of sexism, and any woman MP is aware of that, and works round it.
This was a situation in the House Of Commons, and this was the Prime Minister speaking to an elected MP, not some joshing in a pub round the corner.
This was a situation in the House Of Commons, and this was the Prime Minister speaking to an elected MP, not some joshing in a pub round the corner.
18:16 Wed 27th Apr 2011
Frankly, any MP who takes offence at such trivia does not have the mettle needed for political office.
If this Eagle woman was ever given a position of authority, she would be told (in the usual way), that she was ...
incompetent, betraying the public, irresponsible, deceitful, should resign, etc
If she feels so hurt by being called "dear" ... she would never cope with that.
Perhaps she should resign from being an MP.
If this Eagle woman was ever given a position of authority, she would be told (in the usual way), that she was ...
incompetent, betraying the public, irresponsible, deceitful, should resign, etc
If she feels so hurt by being called "dear" ... she would never cope with that.
Perhaps she should resign from being an MP.
JJ did you see Andy's posts? Where do you draw the line? This was supposed to be serious political debate and he tried to turn it into a joke, there is a much larger picture hear from one stupid remark.
Yet again I ask did you hear the Labour womans comment? If you did you wouldn't be slagging her, read it.
Yet again I ask did you hear the Labour womans comment? If you did you wouldn't be slagging her, read it.
JJ I know i am labouring (!) my point here, but i think the point is being confused -
this is less about an MP taking offence at being patronised - which she did, and was - and more about the fact that Mr Cameron attempted to cover the fact that he was not speaking the truth, by being bumptious and 'humourous' which shows a lack of judgement as Prime Minister, and a lack of respect for the House, and for Parliamentary proceedure.
This is the Commons Chamber during PM's Questions, not the 11:00 p.m. try-out slot at the Comedy Store.
It's not about 'sexism', it's about time and place, and serious misjudgement and pomposity by our elected 'leader'.
this is less about an MP taking offence at being patronised - which she did, and was - and more about the fact that Mr Cameron attempted to cover the fact that he was not speaking the truth, by being bumptious and 'humourous' which shows a lack of judgement as Prime Minister, and a lack of respect for the House, and for Parliamentary proceedure.
This is the Commons Chamber during PM's Questions, not the 11:00 p.m. try-out slot at the Comedy Store.
It's not about 'sexism', it's about time and place, and serious misjudgement and pomposity by our elected 'leader'.
"It reveals a side of him that I suspect his minders would prefer we did not see, because it is so at odds with his carefully constructed "cuddly Cameron" image. It reminds me of none other than Flashman, the appalling bully in Tom Brown's Schooldays. Flashman's increasingly frequent appearances at Westminster are now remarked upon even by MPs in his own party"
From Dave's Link.
That is exactly how I feel about him! Nothing to do with Sexism.
From Dave's Link.
That is exactly how I feel about him! Nothing to do with Sexism.
Oh, yes ... I keep forgetting that the Tories hate women.
The only party to have had a female leader, whom the current leadership still regard as an icon.
And if the Left want to list some of the appalling and disgraceful things they have said about Mrs Thatcher over the years ...
... anything the Tories could EVER say would pale into insignificance.
The Left are a horrid bunch of oiks, thugs and bullies ... including the women.
The only party to have had a female leader, whom the current leadership still regard as an icon.
And if the Left want to list some of the appalling and disgraceful things they have said about Mrs Thatcher over the years ...
... anything the Tories could EVER say would pale into insignificance.
The Left are a horrid bunch of oiks, thugs and bullies ... including the women.
We do Lottie - good morning - but I think Jayne and I are going to have to agree to differ on this.
I am no lover of Mrs Thatcher heaven knows, but she does deserve proper respect for acvhieving the leadership in such a male-dominated environment, and what ever her faults, she was never so pompous and disrespectful to a fellow Member of the House - were she cognicent. she would not approve of her successor's attitudes.
I am no lover of Mrs Thatcher heaven knows, but she does deserve proper respect for acvhieving the leadership in such a male-dominated environment, and what ever her faults, she was never so pompous and disrespectful to a fellow Member of the House - were she cognicent. she would not approve of her successor's attitudes.
JimT - as i have pointed out at length - you can dismiss anything as a waste of time if you wish to avoid its implications - but that is the sort of dismissive posturing that caused the problem in the first place.
If our 'leader' attempts to deflect an untruth of his by being rude and dismissive, utterly against the tried and trusted proceedures of debate in the Chamber, then he should be rebuked for it.
As I said in my original post - the fault lies fairly with the Deputy Speaker who should have called the PM to apologise the first time he made his remark, and given the floor to Ms Eagle to make her point - as she is entitled to do under PMQ rules.
If our 'leader' attempts to deflect an untruth of his by being rude and dismissive, utterly against the tried and trusted proceedures of debate in the Chamber, then he should be rebuked for it.
As I said in my original post - the fault lies fairly with the Deputy Speaker who should have called the PM to apologise the first time he made his remark, and given the floor to Ms Eagle to make her point - as she is entitled to do under PMQ rules.
