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Slavery in the UK.
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http://www.dailymail....men-prostitution.html
Fed up with all these gay issues, let's get back on the real issues that are changing the face of England.
I refer of course to this story of slavery in the UK in 2011.
And this connected story of yet another gang of Muslims who went on trial yesterday accused of a catalogue of child prostitution offences against vulnerable teenage girls as young as 13.
http://www.dailymail....g-girls-young-13.html
These are not isolated crimes, they unfortunately are on the increase.
Fed up with all these gay issues, let's get back on the real issues that are changing the face of England.
I refer of course to this story of slavery in the UK in 2011.
And this connected story of yet another gang of Muslims who went on trial yesterday accused of a catalogue of child prostitution offences against vulnerable teenage girls as young as 13.
http://www.dailymail....g-girls-young-13.html
These are not isolated crimes, they unfortunately are on the increase.
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<<Slavery remains as much of a problem in the UK as when it was officially abolished 200 years ago>>
Well it wasn't much of a problem in 1811 either.
In UK, our forefathers were mostly concerned with raking in the profits from supplying slaves in the Americas.
The number of slaves here was relatively insignificant. Unless of course we broaden the category to include the huge number of indigenous people (particularly children) indentured into service or forced down mines or into factories for a pittance by their own people.
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Well it wasn't much of a problem in 1811 either.
In UK, our forefathers were mostly concerned with raking in the profits from supplying slaves in the Americas.
The number of slaves here was relatively insignificant. Unless of course we broaden the category to include the huge number of indigenous people (particularly children) indentured into service or forced down mines or into factories for a pittance by their own people.
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I don't like the word 'grooming' which seems to crop up when describing young girls. They are just child prostitutes hoping to escape their life existance and have money to feed their drug habits. They are not forced into a life of prostitution. I notice many of the girls are East Europeans as I was expecting the term easy meat which British girls have been accused of.
Dee Sa this one is not far from me handy for the buisness men leaving the city centre as it is on one of the main routes out of manchester
http://insidethem60.j...x-worker-trafficking/
http://insidethem60.j...x-worker-trafficking/
Rov - how do you manage to construct a sentence with the phrase "'just' child prostitutes ..." in it? The use of the word 'just' infers that there are worse things for a child to be - although for the life of me i cant think of one! Since you seem to think this is a triffling issues, maybe you could explain what you think might be worse?
And while i thave your attention - your phrase "They are not forced into a life of prostitution ..."
In your world, is prostituion considered a career choice for any woman - much less for a child? every prostitute is forced into it - only the degree of force varies.
No woman would willingly choose to sell her body for sex if she could see any other feasible way of making that amount of money by another means - or indeed, escaping from the circumstances that have led her into that life.
Your casual dismissal of these desparate women and children beggars belief.
And while i thave your attention - your phrase "They are not forced into a life of prostitution ..."
In your world, is prostituion considered a career choice for any woman - much less for a child? every prostitute is forced into it - only the degree of force varies.
No woman would willingly choose to sell her body for sex if she could see any other feasible way of making that amount of money by another means - or indeed, escaping from the circumstances that have led her into that life.
Your casual dismissal of these desparate women and children beggars belief.
sandy - you're right, Liverpool's history is very strongly linked to the slave trade, the building in which I work has engravings depicting slaves, it's been shown on a tv programme about a tour around the city centre.
AOG - just to pick you up on the obvious, in the 2nd post its mentions nothing of the mens' religion. I appreciate some of their names would suggest they are Muslim but to use such an assumption in your argument could only be deliberately provocative. It is an interesting post, it would be a shame to ruin it by straying from the facts for whatever reason.
AOG - just to pick you up on the obvious, in the 2nd post its mentions nothing of the mens' religion. I appreciate some of their names would suggest they are Muslim but to use such an assumption in your argument could only be deliberately provocative. It is an interesting post, it would be a shame to ruin it by straying from the facts for whatever reason.
Pa_ul3
Here is a link to the Manchester story you mentioned. No names, religion or pictures of Asian men are used, so that accounts for the lack of a Daily Mail report or concerned post from AOG.
http://www.guardian.c...e-raid-sex-crime-gang
Here is a link to the Manchester story you mentioned. No names, religion or pictures of Asian men are used, so that accounts for the lack of a Daily Mail report or concerned post from AOG.
http://www.guardian.c...e-raid-sex-crime-gang
pa___ul3
Let me try to explain, yes I assumed that these monsters were Muslim, since they are Pakistanis and also by their names.
Although the media seem to reluctant to accuse Muslims, I think it is unfair to Hindus, Sikhs and other Asians, to class them as just Asian.
Why the Media, Police etc seem to carefully tread on glass when using the word Muslim or Islam, I just do not know, why even the prosecutor found it necessary to say, "that the case was ‘not about race, religion, colour or creed’.
Yes it is, the authorities must find out why it is that men belonging to a certain religion are taking part in this increasing problem. It would be equally important if it was some members of a white Christian sect, that were committing these odious crimes.
Let me try to explain, yes I assumed that these monsters were Muslim, since they are Pakistanis and also by their names.
Although the media seem to reluctant to accuse Muslims, I think it is unfair to Hindus, Sikhs and other Asians, to class them as just Asian.
Why the Media, Police etc seem to carefully tread on glass when using the word Muslim or Islam, I just do not know, why even the prosecutor found it necessary to say, "that the case was ‘not about race, religion, colour or creed’.
Yes it is, the authorities must find out why it is that men belonging to a certain religion are taking part in this increasing problem. It would be equally important if it was some members of a white Christian sect, that were committing these odious crimes.
AOG - I can't see where it says that they're Pakistani either and, to be fair, the Daily Mail has never been known to 'keep the fact that they're Muslim on the down low'!
If these 10 men in Manchester were white Christian, would you feel the need to mention this? Is it not unfair to decent, honourable Muslims to suggest that the disgusting acts of these men are linked directly to their (suspected) religion?
The fact remains, we have no idea at all as to how much religion, any religion, plays in their life so to assume such a thing is a deciding factor just by looking at their names is a little prejudgemental to say the least!
If these 10 men in Manchester were white Christian, would you feel the need to mention this? Is it not unfair to decent, honourable Muslims to suggest that the disgusting acts of these men are linked directly to their (suspected) religion?
The fact remains, we have no idea at all as to how much religion, any religion, plays in their life so to assume such a thing is a deciding factor just by looking at their names is a little prejudgemental to say the least!
