the return of old labour?

[R1Geezer]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-13913251
Is Miliband getting the reds out from under the bed?

[rojash]

I've read the article, but can't work out which bit your question refers to.

[emmie]

Mr Milliband doesn't know his a*se from his elbow, and Labour did change to New Labour, so he wants to change it back, to what, the militant days of old, get scargill out from under his duvet, and dust him off, or any of the marxist tribe that led the party for so long, not a chance.
What's wrong in politics now, is that many of them have never held down a job, worked in an office, factory, bookstore, whatever, but go straight from University, to political dogsbody then up the greasy pole, so no perspective on real life, if like Ed Miliband, you come from a heavily politicised family, what else are you going to do with your life, politics, thats it.

[rich47]

agree with em10 ...but no need to worry because when Scotland regains it's independence you will never again have a Labour (new or old) at Westminster
again.

[emmie]

rich47, if Scotland gets its independence, you can have your own tax system, then we can build up Hadrians wall, so no stray kilted men are left behind, and when that's done, all your Scottish MP's are out of our English Parliament, all your students can go to St Andrews, or similar, and leave Oxbridge alone, i won't have to endure the endless bleating of Scottish friends, as to how they lost a battle or two to the bloody English, as to your haggis, well i like that, so might stick some in the freezer, does it freeze?

[rich47]

it freezes very well .....you might need to pluck it first

[Zeuhl]

He might need to do something if only to make his group of law graduates and career politicos distinguishable from the other mobs' law graduates and career politicos.

[emmie]

Rich47 i can get my Scottish Butler to do that, he looks like he needs to be taken down a peg or two.

[rich47]

your Scottish butler might want to come home and get a proper job

[emmie]

first sign of independence he's kicked into touch, no flower of scotland, off yer go laddie.

[modeller]

Both Ed and David admit Labour got it wrong despite the fact they were a part of the cabinet. Not that it will make any difference. leftie ABers, Scargill and the Bob Crow brigade will still blame Maggie and Churchill and of course those that sent children up chimneys in the 1800s.

[emmie]

children up chimneys, well i never, as to scargie and and his band of not so merry men, are still at it, not letting go of the past, strikes will come and strikes will go, but at the end of the day, people including those that do it, will get fed up, back off, make a deal, who knows half the time what they actually want. Milliband is not the leader of the Labour Party, he is holding the door open for someone who knows what they are doing, no one so far.

[rov1100]

Whoever is in charge of Labour (new or old) the same doctrine will always hold. That is to spend taxpayers money that hasn't yet been collected. The problem is most of the schemes will last far into the future. PFI will last for another 30 years. Private pensions have been eroded or destroyed.

[rich47]

You guys really need to remember who is actually sovereign in this land ...the people...no one is a subject... no one will be reigned over ....the people are sovereign and will decide. Perhaps you all ned a lesson from the French.
Career politicians are an invention of the 70's and none of them have any ambition except for themselves.
Right, left or central their bias is totally personal with no concern for future generations.

[emmie]

rich47 looks like i'll be heading to the Highlands then, at least we won't have to put up with the dross that's landed on these shores in the last little while.

[rich47]

and, by the way, em who will look after your poor butler when he is cast aside on a whim?

[rich47]

Never mind, you and your butler will be more than welcome in God's country

[emmie]

I will probably be carrying his cases by then, but i'm looking forward to the peace and quiet. I love Scotland, visited numerous times, and always found the people in Scotland friendly, helpful and liked a dram or two, the only problem is when they are here. Never met people that liked to bang the drum about how wonderful the place is, yet don't live there, like your lovely Sean Connery. x

[Ric.ror]

Oh em the very last thing I would call Sean connery is lovely

[emmie]

i always liked him as Bond, but i was being a tad sarky, But i have known so many scots who do nothing but say how great is it, yet live in England, most good natured but oh the arguments about the battles, hundreds of years ago, which i didn't have anything to do with, but as said nice people when in Scotland.

[Quizmonster]

Does it ever cross you mind, Em, to wonder WHY the Scots living in England are there? Nine times out of ten, it is probably as a result of either work or relationships. For example, a Scottish doctor may see an advert for the perfect hospital post in Norwich, so what do you suppose he's likely to do? A Jock marine marries an English girl in Deal and, when his service days are done, she wants to return to her roots, so he accompanies her. Need I go on?
And it is, of course, utter nonsense for you to claim they "do nothing but say how great Scotland is." And even if they did, you seem to agree with them!