Mugshots of rioters released by West Midlands Police

[VHG]

Police in the West Midlands have released the first images of those invovled in the rioting and looting in Birmingham.

http://www.west-midla...ations/operationview/

Hardly a surprise that most of them are black, with a few Asian and white. From what I have seen on TV this is true of other parts of the UK.

A few of us here on Answerbank have been screamng about the disaster that is mass immigration, often shouted down by people who dont see the problem.

Well now you can see the problem and can realise why we are so frightened about the future of our country.

The country is decending in to anarchy.

[Sqad]

em 10 I do understand.

My point was that i do hope that the problem is just skin deep as you intimated in your reply, although i have my doubts.
The seeds of these disorders were sewn way back in the 50's and 60's and had little or nothing to do with racism.

[emmie]

sqad and last but not least, lets not bring in National service, these idiots men and women alike don't fit the criteria, no honour, no brain, no help.

[Kromovaracun]

Sqad - great post, I agree with you completely aside from a few matters of opinion which as you say isn't nearly as important as getting some solid bigger-picture analysis done first. All the questions you've raised are highly relevant and need answering.

(Though seeing as I'm probably one of them, I'd say you've slightly misrepresented optimists about the past 30 years, but that's just nitpicking really and I don't want to derail the thread.)

[emmie]

I understand both points, and also see many around here who are illiterate, uneducated, workshy slobs, of all races, so not going down the route of picking on, as some do, certain members of our society because of their colour, children roaming the streets late at night, what on earth is wrong with the parents in that alone, or were they the same at that age. A society in many respects that has gone backwards not forwards in its thinking, more interested in celebrity and fame, than becoming someone useful in todays society. That is not to say i don't know or knew lots more who are good, honest, and hardworking people, but those are of the much older generation, who are now going into retirement or perhaps passed away. I don't know the answer but National Service isn't it.

[sandyRoe]

Sqad,
what were the policy decisions from the 50's + 60's that have helped contribute to recent problems?

[Sqad]

sandy....in my opinion.

1) Changing the education system to comprehensive. Even "poor boys" had education free opportunities to Oxford, Cambridge and other top Universities.
2) The development of an Education System that was "dummed down" in an effort to make everybody intellectually equal.
3) Hard work and endeavour replaced by intellectual mediocrity and replaced by livable handouts to support the unemployed and the parent restricted families.
4) Uncontrolled immigration leading to a multicultural unemployed society.....admitting uneducated immigrants existing on state benefits. USA, Australia, Canada and South Africa didn't go down this route.
5) Fostering of a liberalised society where respect and discipline was regarded as "old fashioned"
6) Making it illegal to discipline your child by corporal punishment and precluding this from the schools. This doesn't necessarily imply " beating" but if you want to use such emotive terms, then so be it.
7)To regard success as some sort of "skive" instead of appreciating the effort and being envious of success.
8) Meals served at the table with the parents present....nobody leaves the table until everybody has finished......discipline.
9) No National Pride.....watch the F.A Cup final...disrespect to the National anthem.


and so on and so on

These are just my opinions which should have been addressed 30 years ago....now ...alas....too late.

These riots will happen again.....we are dealing with a chronic disease with no known cure.
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[jackthehat]

Addressed 30 years ago?

Right about the time that 'your' generation was at the helm, eh, sqad?

[Sqad]

Trigger........get real.....I have NEVER seen or experienced riots of this severity and viciousness for no apparent good reason in MY lifetime.


Yes....you can go back 100years, 200years, back to the times of Britain in Boadicea's reign......but the bottom line being what has changed society in the past 30 years?

[Sqad]

JTH,,,,,maybe! maybe!.........so your point being that my comments are of limited value. You may well be right.

So what is your appraisal of British Society in the past 30 years?

[jackthehat]

My point is that your endless points about the present state of British society are a little rich coming from someone who has had their turn (generationally) at being in charge.....and seems to have either presided over, or at least done nothing to stem, the 'breakdown' of society.

My appraisal of British society, presently and in the last 30 years is that it is a fluid and complex thing; certainly made no better by constant carping from the sidelines by dissatisfied and disgruntled folks who should have paid closer attention to what they were doing, or allowing to happen AT THE TIME!

[Sqad]

JTH...as usual, a well balanced, unemotional and totally unbiased reply.........!

[jackthehat]

I do try........