Anti-semitic bigots

[sp1814]

There's something I've NEVER understood about certain bigots - where does anti-semitism come from?

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I mean think about it - the Jews in the 20th century have suffered more than any other people (blacks take that particular crown in the 19th century).

So WHY do some people hate Jews?

To paraphrase the Pet Shop Boys - what have they done to deserve this?

It literally makes no sense to me.

[Davethedog]

Sorry Steg I took it by implication :-)

However the fact that one may be inarticulate, in thier agrument, doesn't invalidate the argument, just a little rude, but I do concur.

[mungbeanz]

# the Jews in the 20th century have suffered more than any other people #

It is unfair to say that Jews have suffered more than any other people. What about the genocide and ethnic cleansing in Africa? 5 million Congolese lost their lives in the 20th century and still continue to do so, not to mention Rwanda and other movements. If you're referring to the holocaust then up to 17 million people were killed by the Nazis. What about the Romani and the gays? The Jews just like to shout a little louder than the rest about their injustices.

"Why do people hate Jews" is a question that has many answers depending on which part of history you are talking about. Whether it be related to religious supremacy, eugenics or paranoia, The Jews have been persectuted for well over 2000 years for varous reasons from the absurd to the 'well, there's no smoke without fire arguments.'

[emmie]

Long before the 20th century, and its still going on.

The site of Clifford's Tower, the keep of York's medieval castle, still bears witness to the most horrifying event in the history of English Jewry. On the night of 16 March 1190, the feast of Shabbat ha-Gadol, the small Jewish community of York was gathered together for protection inside the tower. Rather than perish at the hands of the violent mob that awaited them outside, many of the Jews took their own lives; others died in the flames they had lit, and those who finally surrendered were massacred and murdered.

Understandably, this appalling event has become the most notorious example of antisemitism in medieval England. Yet, it was by no means an isolated incident, but rather the culmination of a tide of violent feeling which swept the country in the early part of 1190.

[sp1814]

Thanks everyone - very illuminating (esp. Kromovaracun's answer).

[boxtops]

It's not a modern situation, Jews have always been targets (look at Shylock in Shakespeare) - I'd always understood that it was because Christians blamed them for the death of Jesus (which never really made sense to me, since they called him King of the Jews).

[steg]

i thought the romans killed jesus by crucifixion

[DrFilth]

>> Judas is mentioned in the synoptic gospels, the Gospel of John and at the beginning of Acts of the Apostles.

Mark states that the chief priests were looking for a sly way to arrest Jesus. They decided not to do so during the feast since they were afraid that people would riot; instead, they chose the night before the feast to arrest him. In the Gospel of Luke, Satan enters Judas at this time.[11]

According to the account in the Gospel of John, Judas carried the disciples' money bag.[12] He betrayed Jesus for a bribe of "thirty pieces of silver"[13] by identifying him with a kiss — "the kiss of Judas" — to arresting soldiers of the High Priest Caiaphas, who then turned Jesus over to Pontius Pilate's soldiers. <<

[Anngel123]

Steg it is suggested in the bible that, although the Romans gave the order it was , in fact the, upper ranks of the religious Jews who brought about the death penalty. Mind you this all in a book originally written in Hebrew or Greek then translated into Greek then Latin then English. Anything is possible. Oh and that's without the extra books which they outlawed at the Council of Nicaea because they didn't like the look of them. If you look at how the newspapers of today can twist things and add 2000 years into the mix I guess things get a little muddled.

[steg]

thanks DR and Anngel, i've not read any of the bible stuff for a very long time

[THECORBYLOON]

Davethe dog, from the CPS website "Racial group – this means any group of people who are defined by reference to their race, colour, nationality (including citizenship) or ethnic or national origin. This could include Gypsies and Travellers, refugees, or asylum seekers or others from less visible minorities. There has been a legal ruling that Jews and Sikhs are included in the definition of racial group."

[Haggisdj]

bradcashman38 - didn't this start in what is now the Middle East when the muslims drove the Jews out of the holy land in the 7th century AD?

[Snafu03]

for dave50 'Nobody has yet explained the historical reasons for the persecution of Jews throughout history.'

There arent many countries that Jews have been banished from, this is largely due to religious differences. They were in exile from their own country and entering Europe at a time when Christianity was enjoying its heyday. Anything other than Christianity wouldve been seriously mis-trusted.

[DTCwordfan]

well isnt it impressive to see we make the top 50 of genocides re MacMillan and the Kenyans... Did Tony Blair or Gordon Brown apologise?

[brionon]

sp1814 I So agree with you -it's a Mystery-after all Jesus was a Jew.

[modeller]

// Nobody has yet explained the historical reasons for the persecution of Jews throughout history. //
Much of it stems from their blind belief that they are the chosen people and are unwilling to accomodate other peoples views . They believed that they could occupy other peoples land because it was the will of God.
This rigid belief is bound to instill dislike in the Gentiles. Another reason occurred when Christianity became established . The Christians believed they were right and that Jews had killed Christ . The Jews were also the greatest opponents of the Romans and the Muslims in Arabia .
All this made the Jews more and more inwards looking . They favoured working and doing business with each other to the exclusion of others.
You can see this today in the city and in many trades which are almost entirely run by Jews . They are usually very hard working which annoys those who would rather sit on their backsides.
Their hardline belief is evident in Israel today they are still living in the
world of Abraham . However it should be pointed out that the Arabs and Jews lived together fairly amicably throughout the Middle Ages whilst the whole of Christain Europe were virulently anti-semitic. .

[modeller]

broadcash //If west is so sad about its past about the jews, west should give them a few miles anywhere in Canada, america Australia or Europe.//

In the 19th century and just after WWI they were offered large areas of South America as a Jewish homeland but they turned it down as Israel or more precisely Judaea was given to them by God and only that was acceptable. That is also their stance today especially by the Zionists.
Like all extreme theists they are are blind to the beliefs of others. In Israel it is the theists who have the final say in the government. They will never willingly compromise.