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Gay marriages to be made legal.
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http://www.dailymail....gal-Britain-2015.html
/// At present, gays and lesbians are allowed to enter civil partnerships, which offer most of the legal protections of marriage. But the term ‘marriage’ is not used.///
In a time when more important matters should be on politicians minds, why is the term 'Marriage' that important to homosexuals, that politicians find the need to change the law, specially to accommodate them?
/// At present, gays and lesbians are allowed to enter civil partnerships, which offer most of the legal protections of marriage. But the term ‘marriage’ is not used.///
In a time when more important matters should be on politicians minds, why is the term 'Marriage' that important to homosexuals, that politicians find the need to change the law, specially to accommodate them?
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One should be allowed to voice their opinions on homosexuality just the same as on any other subject.
DrFilth said it all when he pointed out sp1814's and other's insults to those who don't toe his line.
>> "straight men only pretend to tolerate homosexuality because they're afraid of appearing bigoted d*ckheads". <<
>> bigoted d*ckheads <<
Where some homosexuals let themselves down is demanding almost that everyone should put up with them forever demanding this or demanding that, and forever thrusting their sexuality in front of us, 'Gay Pride' springs to mind.
DrFilth said it all when he pointed out sp1814's and other's insults to those who don't toe his line.
>> "straight men only pretend to tolerate homosexuality because they're afraid of appearing bigoted d*ckheads". <<
>> bigoted d*ckheads <<
Where some homosexuals let themselves down is demanding almost that everyone should put up with them forever demanding this or demanding that, and forever thrusting their sexuality in front of us, 'Gay Pride' springs to mind.
AOG - the reaction of some gay people - excess camp behaviour, radical requests, marches, and so on, is directly proportional, and in response, to the treatment they perceive as being dished out by the wider 'straight' society in which they co-exist.
As jack pointed out - if people were treated equally, the need to draw lines would be eradicated.
As jack pointed out - if people were treated equally, the need to draw lines would be eradicated.
andy-hughes
/// As jack pointed out - if people were treated equally, the need to draw lines would be eradicated. ///
Now you are beginning to make sense, White, heterosexual, English, Male. springs to mind.
The difference being we have no special groups set up to protect our position, we do not march to show the world who we are, and anyone who disagrees with us are not labelled "narrow minded Bigots" etc, etc.
/// As jack pointed out - if people were treated equally, the need to draw lines would be eradicated. ///
Now you are beginning to make sense, White, heterosexual, English, Male. springs to mind.
The difference being we have no special groups set up to protect our position, we do not march to show the world who we are, and anyone who disagrees with us are not labelled "narrow minded Bigots" etc, etc.
"Where some homosexuals let themselves down is demanding almost that everyone should put up with them forever demanding this or demanding that, and forever thrusting their sexuality in front of us, 'Gay Pride' springs to mind. "
"Demanding" the right to be able to call a marriage a marriage doesn't strike me as particularly radical, personally.
And why should gay pride bother you? For a multitude of historical reasons, 'white' just isn't as strong an identity as 'gay' or whatever - there's virtually no sense of shared historical experience that just applies to whites and defines them as a community.
Think of it like this - an identity is what sets you apart from the crowd, so to speak. White heterosexual men, if you like, are 'the crowd'. And historically, until recent times (say, the last 30 years or so) have had all the associated advantages. What you will find, however, is that white men can and will identify themselves in several different ways (by age, formerly by social background, sometimes by nationality etc etc.).
"Demanding" the right to be able to call a marriage a marriage doesn't strike me as particularly radical, personally.
And why should gay pride bother you? For a multitude of historical reasons, 'white' just isn't as strong an identity as 'gay' or whatever - there's virtually no sense of shared historical experience that just applies to whites and defines them as a community.
Think of it like this - an identity is what sets you apart from the crowd, so to speak. White heterosexual men, if you like, are 'the crowd'. And historically, until recent times (say, the last 30 years or so) have had all the associated advantages. What you will find, however, is that white men can and will identify themselves in several different ways (by age, formerly by social background, sometimes by nationality etc etc.).
AOG- "Now you are beginning to make sense" - I find that comment breathtakingly pompous, but in the interest of avoiding a sidelining of the debate, I will let it pass this time.
"The difference being we have no special groups set up to protect our position, we do not march to show the world who we are, and anyone who disagrees with us are not labelled "narrow minded Bigots" etc, etc."
and why would we need them?
The only reason why any minority group feels the need to 'protect its position' 'march to show the world who it is' etc. etc. is because they are just that - a minority.
If you are the majority, which we as heterosexual white males are - then we have no need to protest or make our feelings known - we are the biggest group - to whom would we be protesting? Ourselves?
Although - that doesn't seem to stop some of us does it?
"The difference being we have no special groups set up to protect our position, we do not march to show the world who we are, and anyone who disagrees with us are not labelled "narrow minded Bigots" etc, etc."
and why would we need them?
The only reason why any minority group feels the need to 'protect its position' 'march to show the world who it is' etc. etc. is because they are just that - a minority.
If you are the majority, which we as heterosexual white males are - then we have no need to protest or make our feelings known - we are the biggest group - to whom would we be protesting? Ourselves?
Although - that doesn't seem to stop some of us does it?
andy-hughes
/// AOG- "Now you are beginning to make sense" - I find that comment breathtakingly pompous, but in the interest of avoiding a sidelining of the debate, I will let it pass this time.///
"Now you are beginning to make sense" It is a terminology often used Andy when one makes a point that one agrees with.
No reason to be called 'breathtakingly pompous' but then you seem to be very fond of hanging various labels around my neck these days, in your usual way.
/// "I will let it pass this time". ///
Now that is what one would call 'pomposity', to the it's very extreme.
Should I now be eternal grateful to you for all time?
/// AOG- "Now you are beginning to make sense" - I find that comment breathtakingly pompous, but in the interest of avoiding a sidelining of the debate, I will let it pass this time.///
"Now you are beginning to make sense" It is a terminology often used Andy when one makes a point that one agrees with.
No reason to be called 'breathtakingly pompous' but then you seem to be very fond of hanging various labels around my neck these days, in your usual way.
/// "I will let it pass this time". ///
Now that is what one would call 'pomposity', to the it's very extreme.
Should I now be eternal grateful to you for all time?
Thanks Ratter!
As you know, AOG holds some sort of AB record for having the last word, and I often simply lose the will to fight about semantics over and over again.
I do admire his tenacity and determination to make his point, but sometimes I feel like we are two ageing metaphorical stags butting heads over a doe of a point of expression, when she has probably wandered off towards Chatterbank in search of some less cantankerous company!
As you know, AOG holds some sort of AB record for having the last word, and I often simply lose the will to fight about semantics over and over again.
I do admire his tenacity and determination to make his point, but sometimes I feel like we are two ageing metaphorical stags butting heads over a doe of a point of expression, when she has probably wandered off towards Chatterbank in search of some less cantankerous company!
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