MP threatened.

[Amy90]

The very last sentence of this report is astounding. There were no arrests yet the MP was called a 'Jewish homosexual pig' by one of the muslims.

Now, imagine if things had been the other way around. It seems you can only be racist if you are white and British.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/...gland-london-15508697

[anotheoldgit]

You know me venator, always ready for a good laugh.

[Kromovaracun]

French and Germans are of the same race... (well, most of the time anyway. But I think the fact that you can hypothetically have a black Frenchman or German indicates much the same point that nationality is a separate thing). Anti-French/German comments or whatever are surely against their nation rather than race.

[boxtops]

AOG, you know exactly what I mean - that was an example, I couldn't write a list of all the white people in countries in the world who people make fun of - Ozzies, Boer descendants - the Belgians - all get fun poked at because of nationality, not whether they are black or white.

[anotheoldgit]

boxtops

Yes of course, I admit I was being flippant.

But what my real intention was the fact that one is allowed to criticise, make fun of, insult etc, etc, are the ones who happen to have a white skin.

In your following statement you said,.

/// all get fun poked at because of nationality, not whether they are black or white. ///

See what happens if the person is a 'black national'.

[sith123]

yeah nox, i agree with you completely. I like jews and have no negative feelings towards them, the same i hope no jews have negative feelings towards me. I respect everyone.

[jno]

Brenden, the question was (as Em correctly pointed out) about Britain, not the USA.

[Brenden]

jno, It was you who mentioned the Iraq war in your reply to em and there were hundreds of British in those two towers, so it did reflect on us.

[sp1814]

"It seems you can only be racist if you are white and British."

Amy90 - I have a question...do you think there was ever a time when that was genuinely true?

I'd be interested to hear when you think non-whites became as bigoted as their white counterparts - unless you believe that's alway been the case?

[naomi24]

SP, you haven't said, but I do hope you condemn this.

[jno]

Brenden, the attack on NYC (in which Britons were not the target, even if many died) prompted the war on Afghanistan; but the war on Iraq was a separate affair - nothing to do with Afghanistan, the Taliban or al-Qaeda. And it's the Iraq war that has prompted the belief among Muslims that Britain and the USA are out to get Muslims.

[DrFilth]

sp1814 >> when you think non-whites became as bigoted as their white counterparts <<

do you not know or have you never met a bigoted black person

[birdie1971]

Jno - “... And it's the Iraq war that has prompted the belief among Muslims that Britain and the USA are out to get Muslims...”

Britain and the USA are not 'out to get' muslims. I don't think either government could care less about muslims as a group. What they're 'out to get' is political leverage and influence in countries which have a large amount of oil. It just so happens that quite a lot of oil-rich countries are also predominantly muslim.

If muslims think that the USA and Britain has got it in for them as a religious group then they need to ask themselves why aren't they heavily involved in countries such as The Gambia, Mauritania, Niger, Senegal, etc...

[Amy90]

To sp1814.

I will answer your particular question after you condemn the action of these muslim bigots and agree that they should have been arrested and charged with a hate crime just as any white british person would have been had the situation been reversed.

[tamborine]

Not only do I condemn these muslim bigots but also the weakened police. My neighboring muslims would not behave likewise - else I my scissors may 'accidentally' snip off their ears :)

[Brenden]

jno, if the muslims believe that the British and Americans are "out to get them" why are they coming here to settle in such great numbers?

[joggerjayne]

"jewish" and "pig" ...

Even abusive insults can have an element of irony.

[emmie]

but pig and Muslim doesn't.

[starone]

Black people live in the houses adjoining mine. On one side lives a man with two children who I believe comes from the Congo. He and his children stay in the house and never come out except to go to school and shopping. I do not even know what his surname is. I tried being friendly but all I get is a wave of the hand and a hello which I suppose is better than nothing. I have seen the girl twice, once getting into the car to go to school and once going to the bin. I know their given names because I asked the boy. On the other side is a lovely black man who comes in three or four times a week, to have a chat and a cup of tea. He lends me his newspaper every day and allows me to do the crossword in it. He takes me to the dentist and the doctor. He is a very kind and nice man. I am trying to illustrate the fact that we are all different and the colour of our skins does not matter. It is a great pity that people cannot live with each other without discord.

[emmie]

starbuckone, this matter isn't about colour, but religious and cultural differences. What those men said should have seen them arrested. They won't be, because as some, not all i agree, see that there is a two tier system operating in Britain, things that can be said to non Muslims, and things that cannot be said to any Muslim, without fear of reprisals. Not knowing your neighbour is quite common, we only know ours because of a shared problem, but we didn't meet them until fairly recently.

[DrFilth]

>> What those men said should have seen them arrested. <<

for what they dropped on the west bank should see some arrested but they are not

>> see that there is a two tier system operating in Britain <<

some see that there is a two tier system operating in the world