First non-white 'Heathcliff' charged with racial abuse.

[anotheoldgit]

/// On one occasion, when they refused to let him in to see his daughter, he yelled racist abuse at them. ‘I will smash your head against the wall and there will be no baby . . . you ****ing P*** bitches,’ he said. ///

/// He also sent text messages to his ex-girlfriend which read: ‘You little P*** ***. If I catch you I’m going to kill you. ///

Judging from the charge against him, it seems the racial aspect is more serious than the threats to smash his ex-lover's head against the wall, or even to kill her.

[THECORBYLOON]

anotheoldgit, am I correct in thinking you've moved the goalposts? It used to be that only white folk can be racists but now that's been proven to be wrong, it's only white folk who CAN'T be the victims of racism.

[anotheoldgit]

I am just waiting for some black person attacking his white girlfriend, which is much more common it seems.

Only then will I have a change of mind when that person is also charged with racial abuse, instead of it only being classed as a mere domestic offence.

[THECORBYLOON]

The answer is "Yes" then. Are white men normally charged with a race-related crime when they attack a non-white wife or partner?

[ChuckFickens]

So has it not occurred to you that the sort of person that would enter into a mixed race partnership in the first place is not going to be an inherently racist person so any fights/violence would be driven by domestic reasons and not race reasons.

[anotheoldgit]

ChuckFickens

/// So has it not occurred to you that the sort of person that would enter into a mixed race partnership in the first place is not going to be an inherently racist person so any fights/violence would be driven by domestic reasons and not race reasons. ///

I am afraid your argument is a little weak, referring to the case in question both persons belonged to races who I presume are not likely to be racially abused by each other, also by partnering each other they are not going to be 'inherently racist persons' (your words) yet their case is not being treated as a 'domestic issue'.

But taking your example, no matter what their original good non racist attitude when they first got together, come a breakup in the relationship all those good intentions will go out the window and physical violence, and insults (be them personal or racial) will most likely systematically take place.

[Kromovaracun]

Well, this thread is getting pretty ugly pretty quickly.

Who'da thunk it?

[anotheoldgit]

THECORBYLOON

/// Are white men normally charged with a race-related crime when they attack a non-white wife or partner? ///

All rather hypothetical.

But I cannot see any reason why they wouldn't be, that would be entirely up to the accusations levied against them by their non-white wife's or partners, and if of course the police decided make a racial charge against them.

[sp1814]

AOG

Are you saying that black men are prone to beating up their white female partners?

Be specific please.

[THECORBYLOON]

"I am just waiting for some black person attacking his white person which is much more common it seems" do you have any stats to back up that statement anotheoldgit?

[THECORBYLOON]

That should have been white girlfriend of course.

[pdust]

oh so it is aog... i will have read it and immediately forgotten

[sp1814]

Silence is defining.

[exdc]

"'I think I've blown my acting career"

I wonder if this racist thug was equally concerned about his ex-partner

[THECORBYLOON]

I think anotheoldgit is busy digging holes to move the goalposts into...

[anotheoldgit]

/// Are you saying that black men are prone to beating up their white female partners? ///

I have personally known many instances.

And isn't it also a known fact that they very really stay too long in a relationship, be their partners black or white?

[anotheoldgit]

Perhaps some of you would be better employed criticising and condemning this racist, bulling, and abusive thug, rather that having a go at me for addressing his crime.

[Zeuhl]

<<better employed criticising and condemning this racist, bulling, and abusive thug, rather that having a go at me>>

You can't blame people for not being able to distinguish between the two.

<<me for addressing his crime>>

How exactly have you 'addressed' it?

Do you mean picking it out of the papers?

That hardly fits the definition of 'addressing' something.

Perhaps you mean 'drawing attention to it' Though it is a stretch to use one event and some unsubstantiated assertions as a basis for a racial stereotyping argument.

[sandyRoe]

Othello and Desdemona had a tempestuous relationship that ended badly. That was a long while before Heathcliffe was around.
I'd suggest that its not the colour of peoples skin that makes them behave as they do, but the colour of their hearts.

[anotheoldgit]

sandyRoe's reference to Othello and the recent post regarding white singers and dances blacking-up on the Black and White Minstrels TV Show, brought me to thinking, why was a non white 'Heathcliff' needed?

Wasn't there any white actors available?

[AB Editor]

"Why was a non white 'Heathcliff' needed?"

Heathcliff is described as "moorish" in the novel. Shades may vary.