Gary Speed Inquest.

[Everhelpful]

Any thoughts as to the Verdict?

[factor-fiction]

A little surprising.
It was the first I'd heard about his wife falling asleep in the car on the night he died

[rozia]

im very saddened by the whole thing RIP Gary

[VHG]

Well it seems he may not have MEANT to kill himslef but put the thing round his neck to scare his wife when she came back in after the row.

Unluckily for him she fell asleep in the car and he fell asleep as well.

So I guess they could not say it was deliberate but maybe a tragic accident.

[andres]

She said she fell asleep in the car ????Did he not think to look for her when he woke (assuming that he went to bed )?Maybe he fell asleep with the noose round his neck !!!!!!(coroner said that ).

[missnemesis]

It certainly is a very sad set of circumstances however I think it was incredibly bloody selfish of him to try and feign suicide, if that is indeed what he did. Fake suicide attempts carry with them a risk of death and it's a crying shame for all those left behind when it goes wrong/right.

[lcg]

mmm...i think anyone with a noose has a certain amount of intent there. how can you fall asleep with one round your neck? all i know is that it was a tragic outcome.

[VHG]

>>>how can you fall asleep with one round your neck?

He was sitting down, so maybe put the noose round his neack as a sot of "i'll show her when she comes back that I mean business".

But he feel asleep himself and perhaps if he fell sideways it tightened the noose on his neck and he could not breath.

If he was drunk as well (they did not say) then he may not have been fully aware of his actions.

[Prudie]

I have just been to look at this. First it's all very very tragic and I don't mean to be disrespectful but having said that I find it hard to believe she slept in the car at the end of November. It would have been freezing. Also if she was really locked out she'd have knocked until her sons at least answered wouldn't she? All very odd. I hope the papers have distorted the facts.

[DTCwordfan]

the thing that I find difficult to fathom is that, apparently, he sent his wife a text to the effect that he was feeling down and suicidal. This was 3 days (?) ahead of his death.

Why, why did his wife not take action then? It was obviously the cry for help...

[numnum]

I find it very strange. One report said she looked through the garage window and saw his feet and that the 999 advised them to cut him down to resusitate till the ambulance arrived. so he must have been off the ground so i don't understand how he could have fallen asleep.

to fall asleep in the car with their two teenage sons in the house is strange. if gary and his wife were out then there sons must be of an age where you can leave them in alone so i don't think it would have been a problem to waken them

i read he had 80mg of alcohol in his blood. just over the drive limit so he wouldn't have been drunk to pass out.

i really don't know how a hanging could be an accident. my stepdad hung himself 8 months ago and i would never think to say it was an accident

[NOX]

If you are sitting on some step ladders with a noose round your neck THINKING of hanging yourself and then you slip and the ladders fall, that's an accident, simple.

[DTCwordfan]

I must say that there seems to be a cover-up here; as it stands, it does sound all rather dubious/fishy.

Was it murder in fact?

[ummmm]

Seriously? You don't think the police would have investigated that?

[NOX]

I was talking to my son who said, well he could have killed himself and jumped off the ladders, the could have slipped and fallen off the ladders or he could have had the ladders kicked from under him... bet these last two comments don't last long.

[numnum]

there was maybe markings on him of a struggle which would suggest an accident or started to do it and change his mind

when i was reading up after my stepdad done it i read if your set on doing it, there would be one mark on you. where if you'd changed your mind but couldnt' stop it there would be evidence of this

[DTCwordfan]

You never know, ummmm, stranger things have happened.

The text three days before, part of the set-up with someone "borrowing" GS's phone.....

[wolf63]

Whatever the verdict the guy was in a horrible state of mind - to either kill himself or to feign suicide. He must have been in a very dark place. It is not a nice place to find yourself in.

[welshlibranr]

there has to be more to this!....don't know what was happening with Gary Speed and his wife!........but there has to be more to it!.............

[NOX]

I have a horrible feeling this poor woman is going to be the next Courtney Love :(

[ummmm]

Why does there have to be more to it?