John Terry

[anotheoldgit]

http://www.telegraph....is-opinion-known.html

It is becoming more obvious that the FA are to strip John Terry of his England captaincy.

In view that he has not been found guilt yet, is this fair?

If so should Harry Redknapp also be sacked as Manager of Spurs, even though he has also not yet been found guilty?

[Ankou]

yes, he is under criminal investigation for racial abuse and is meant to represent english football worldwide to all races.

harry avoided paying some tax.

they don't compare.

[Philtaz]

No it isn't fair. Maybe the FA could have given him the 'heads up' on the q.t. which might have allowed him to step down of his own volition until matters are dealt with.

I'm sure his PR people could have worded it in a befitting manner.

[bednobs]

i think it's extremely unfair. If they are worried about the repercussions, they should suspend him on full pay until the court case is over and then take appropriate action They can't have half and half measures (ie "sack" him as captain but still have the ability to pick him to play)

[rowanwitch]

I said on an earlier post.. that in many organisations someone accused of a similar thing would be suspended on full pay pending a hearing/resolution I believe that this should have been the case with JT as it has a bearing on his professional role and responsibilites. Not about guilt or innocence simply sensible practice

[rov1100]

The fact that Anton's brother Rio plays alongisde Terry in the England team you would that brotherly love would cause a rebellion in the side especially as the England captancy was handed to Terry instead of Rio. But Rio has not uttered a peep and seems quite willing to do so. Maybe Anton is just stirring the muddy waters for self publicity which should never have been brought to court in the first place. Sorry should have been sufficient!

[Ankou]

bednobs, they haven't decided that yet.

he may be removed from the captaincy and the squad. wait and see.

[joggerjayne]

He sleeps around, and loses the captaincy.

Now this.

He does not have the collective respect of other players ...

... so what makes him good captain material?

English football must look a bit silly to the outside world.

[bednobs]

Sorry rowan, i hadn't seen another thread. I was just thinking though that if it is terrible that jt should captain england *if* he is guilty, surely it's just as bad to represent england by even being on the team?

Working in engagement and communications, i DO NOT understand who these silly football clubs have advising them (Thinking of Liverpool also). If someone where i worked gave such duff advice as this, they would be considering their role!

[Philtaz]

JT has never been my favourite footballer by any stretch of the imagination however I have to say that when I saw the (now removed) footage of the alleged incident on youTube I have to admit that I don't believe he said what is alleged, however that's a matter for the court.

[McMouse]

When this comes to court I'm sure UK will become the laughing stock of the world.

[rov1100]

If the courts were involved for every case of verbal harassment not only will they be overflowing and unable to cope our deficit would never be solved. He should just grow up!

[Ankou]

http://www.theanswerb.../Question1101839.html

[08012006]

I would be interested to know exactly what words Terry is accused of saying. Did AF answer back?

[rowanwitch]

Wasn't aimed at you bednobs just a gentle reminder that this issue had been discussed in some depth on earlier threads

[anotheoldgit]

Ankou

If they are found guilty they both have committed criminal offences, so in my book the two cases do compare.

But no, I believe tax evasion has a slight edge over the mumbling of a few racist words.

[mightyWBA]

He allegedly called Ferdinand a "Black c***" Roy Keane called Mick McCarthy an "English C***" but carried on playing for Man United,managed Sunderland & Ipswich and now works as a summariser for ITV Sport.
Terry is still innocent until proven guilty and to be honest having a trial over something like this is silly really..Unless you are earning huge amounts of cash from it of course.

[rowanwitch]

Yes they are both criminal cases where the charges relate to the individuals job role and responsibilities in both cases I think suspension with pay would be appropriate...but football is more about money and success at all costs then appropriate behaviour after all. Would this have even got this far if JT was a young superstar just coming into top form... probably not it would have been dealt with internally like the Suarez case ... ban over before the Euros sorted!!