100 suspected gang members arrested in raids in London

[anotheoldgit]

http://www.telegraph....-raids-in-London.html

At last the police take some positive action against the gangs of London.

/// Mayor of London Boris Johnson said tackling gangs was the top crime priority for London. ///

/// ''We've been attacking gangs from all angles. Now the Met has a concerted and determined push to take out the ring-leaders and tempt impressionable youngsters away from this destructive life,'' he added. ///

On Radio LBC this morning Mayor Johnson said "they aimed to offer apprenticeships and membership to uniformed youth organisation", to these so called 'impressionable youngsters'.

Can you see any of these vicious little thugs joining the Scouts or Boy's Brigade etc.?

And why do you first have to be a gang member before you are offered what many law-abiding youths would only be please to attain, that being an apprenticeship?

[Gromit]

I shall wait and see how many are actually charged with anything before I comment on what is more likely to be a pre-Olympics publicity stunt by the Mayor and the Met.

My guess is you could count on one hand the number who will face any charges.

[Ankou]

its also national apprentice week, so timing is good.

[anotheoldgit]

Blimey Gromit have you 'come out'.

[Gromit]

I am a big fan. But do you know who it is?

[Philtaz]

Oh no, Trident is mentioned. Expect a riot in the not too distant future....

[sp1814]

"Can you see any of these vicious little thugs joining the Scouts or Boy's Brigade etc.?"

Quite unlikely. In fact, I grew up in south London and I have no recollection of any scouts/boy's brigade organisations anywhere near us.

And wouldn't that be a very wet bandage on a very large open wound?

Its not just after-school activities that are needed - a 'holistic' approach is required. How are their schools doing? Where do they fall in the latest Ofsted reports? What are their living conditions? Are they related to other gang members? Do they come from low income families? What percentage of their schoolmates went onto university (NOT college), what is the youth unemployment figures in the area? How many single parent families? What are the figures for drug arrests.

Etc etc...

[sp1814]

Philtaz

Operation Trident hasn't resulted in riots. Op Trident is the taskforce set up to investigate black-on-black crime.

[Gromit]

Hello AOG,

I didn't know you were Canadian.

Or have you got something against young Blue Peter Competition winners?

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[Gromit]

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[anotheoldgit]

/// How are their schools doing? Where do they fall in the latest Ofsted reports? ///

What are the truancy numbers?

/// What are their living conditions? ///

Why would this have any effect on their need to join in knife crime and shootings? there are many law abiding and under privileged kids that live in poor living conditions?

/// Are they related to other gang members? ///

This could have a bearing on them getting into a life of crime, roll model and all that. Solution remove their relative.

/// Do they come from low income families? ///

As already said there are many law abiding low income families

/// What percentage of their schoolmates went onto university (NOT college), ///

Are you saying that only kids that are not academically minded, revert to a life of crime?

/// what is the youth unemployment figures in the area? ///

About the same as other such areas, but who don't feel the need to form violent gangs.

/// How many single parent families? ///

Admit this is a problem with some black families, but once again there are many single parent families that are are able to bring up their children to be perfectly law abiding citizens.

/// What are the figures for drug arrests. ///

I am sure the Met has the figure, and this is one of the reasons why they are now taking action against these gangs.

[pa___ul3]

are you setting a trap there AOG? You little tinker!! ;)

[VHG]

>>>Op Trident is the taskforce set up to investigate black-on-black crime.

I think the point Philtaz was making is that often when "certain" people are arested it seems like it is used as an excuse to go on a riot, attack policemen, burn out cars, and generally destroy the very area you live in.

[pdust]

whats all that? who you quoting aog?

and whats this mean

**/// How many single parent families? ///

Admit this is a problem with some black families**


do you mean there aren't any single parent families that are white? im sure ive seen some..honest....

[Philtaz]

sp1814,
I'm fully aware of what Op Trident is, thank you. Mark Duggan was stopped and shot by Op Trident officers. Do you remember what happened as a result a day or two later?

VHG,
Thanks for making my point and pointing it out to sp1814.

[Gromit]

// I think the point Philtaz was making is that often when "certain" people are arested it seems like it is used as an excuse to go on a riot, attack policemen, burn out cars, and generally destroy the very area you live in. //

And what really pisses them off is being shot through the head a point blank range and then issuing a pack of lies. That is when people get really cross.

[Philtaz]

Who was shot in the head Gromit?

[pa___ul3]

wow, are we still pretending that only black people rioted!?

[Ankou]

is aog having a two way convo in his head ?

omg. lol. etc

[Gromit]

AOG is answering one by one sp1814s questions in the post above.

How are their schools doing?
Where do they fall in the latest Ofsted reports?
What are their living conditions?
Are they related to other gang members?
Do they come from low income families?
What percentage of their schoolmates went onto university (NOT college)?
What is the youth unemployment figures in the area?
How many single parent families?
What are the figures for drug arrests.

[Ankou]

oh i see. thought it was some mafia thing about removing relatives and whatnot.