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Arson sentence
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11 1/2 years for burning down the Reeves store in the Riot.
More or less serious than this case do you think?
A-G's Reference No 68 OF 2008 (MYRIE)
Pleaded guilty to arson reckless as to whether life was endangered. The defendant put petrol through the letterbox of a house in a revenge attack following a road rage incident. Family evacuated and £7K damage.
http://www.cps.gov.uk...ual/arson_-_reckless/
More or less serious than this case do you think?
A-G's Reference No 68 OF 2008 (MYRIE)
Pleaded guilty to arson reckless as to whether life was endangered. The defendant put petrol through the letterbox of a house in a revenge attack following a road rage incident. Family evacuated and £7K damage.
http://www.cps.gov.uk...ual/arson_-_reckless/
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// The family lost their home, business //
Don't think they lived over the shop so how come they lost their home? I am sure they will have been insured. Just looked and the business is still trading.
http://www.houseofree...-us-opening-hours/i51
Not excusing the crime, but no one was hurt (luckily) unlike jakes examples.
Don't think they lived over the shop so how come they lost their home? I am sure they will have been insured. Just looked and the business is still trading.
http://www.houseofree...-us-opening-hours/i51
Not excusing the crime, but no one was hurt (luckily) unlike jakes examples.
perhaps it wasn't their home, but some who lived near could have been fatally injured.
http://www.dailymail....ves-arson-attack.html
http://www.dailymail....ves-arson-attack.html
Well I'm not suggesting he should get a light sentence
But it is important to me (and I hope to most people) that the law is applied consistantly and proportionately.
It seems that our current crop of leaders think that sentences should reflct public opinion and outrage.
I think that's very dangerous as it places the law in the hands of rabble rousers stirring up public opinin for their own benefit.
In the context of these cases I would have thought something more akin to a 5 years would be appropriate although we don't know what his previous criminal history has been and that is clearly relevant too.
I'd certainly expect there to be an appeal aginst the sentence
But it is important to me (and I hope to most people) that the law is applied consistantly and proportionately.
It seems that our current crop of leaders think that sentences should reflct public opinion and outrage.
I think that's very dangerous as it places the law in the hands of rabble rousers stirring up public opinin for their own benefit.
In the context of these cases I would have thought something more akin to a 5 years would be appropriate although we don't know what his previous criminal history has been and that is clearly relevant too.
I'd certainly expect there to be an appeal aginst the sentence
so 5 years for this, no he got off lightly
London riots: 11 years for man who set fire to Croydon shop
Gordon Thompson destroyed a family business, which had stood at that site for over 150 years.
11/04/2012 11:47 AM
JAILED: Gordon Thompson
A MAN who set fire to a south London furniture shop during last summer’s riots, has been sentenced to 11 years in jail.
Gordon Thompson, 33, who pleaded guilty to the arson of The House of Reeves in Croydon also admitted three burglaries for which he was sentenced to serve eight years concurrently.
On August 8, Thompson forced his way into the stores to loot and burgle them. He then deliberately set fire to a sofa in the furniture showroom of House of Reeves destroying a family business, which had stood at that site for over 150 years.
The first of his criminal acts that night was a burglary at Iceland on Surrey Street when he brazenly looted the store. However Thompson was captured on film with the items he had stolen and that photograph appeared on the front page of the local newspaper.
A short time later Thompson was again caught on CCTV entering the House of Fraser store and reemerging five minutes later with armfuls of stolen goods.
CCTV also captured Thompson at Reeves Corner where he ripped a shattered glass pane from its frame and entered the premises. This time he stole a laptop computer and on leaving the store he asked another person for a lighter. As soon as he was given one, he set fire to a sofa inside the shop. The resulting fire was devastating.
Once House of Reeves was ablaze, glowing embers from the fire set light to the residential property on the other side of the road and residents were forced to flee for their lives.
London riots: 11 years for man who set fire to Croydon shop
Gordon Thompson destroyed a family business, which had stood at that site for over 150 years.
11/04/2012 11:47 AM
JAILED: Gordon Thompson
A MAN who set fire to a south London furniture shop during last summer’s riots, has been sentenced to 11 years in jail.
Gordon Thompson, 33, who pleaded guilty to the arson of The House of Reeves in Croydon also admitted three burglaries for which he was sentenced to serve eight years concurrently.
On August 8, Thompson forced his way into the stores to loot and burgle them. He then deliberately set fire to a sofa in the furniture showroom of House of Reeves destroying a family business, which had stood at that site for over 150 years.
The first of his criminal acts that night was a burglary at Iceland on Surrey Street when he brazenly looted the store. However Thompson was captured on film with the items he had stolen and that photograph appeared on the front page of the local newspaper.
A short time later Thompson was again caught on CCTV entering the House of Fraser store and reemerging five minutes later with armfuls of stolen goods.
CCTV also captured Thompson at Reeves Corner where he ripped a shattered glass pane from its frame and entered the premises. This time he stole a laptop computer and on leaving the store he asked another person for a lighter. As soon as he was given one, he set fire to a sofa inside the shop. The resulting fire was devastating.
Once House of Reeves was ablaze, glowing embers from the fire set light to the residential property on the other side of the road and residents were forced to flee for their lives.
jake-the-peg I have to agree , many of the sentences handed out after the riots seem to owe more to the sense of public outrage and the ranting of politicians than to previous sentencing guidelines.
Gromit, I am sure heard on the News last night that the business owner did live above the shop and his home was destroyed along with his business.
Gromit, I am sure heard on the News last night that the business owner did live above the shop and his home was destroyed along with his business.
Gromit
/// Not excusing the crime, but no one was hurt ///
It wasn't for the trying, hopefully this poor woman escaped unharmed.
http://i.dailymail.co...00578-703_634x434.jpg
This thug got off lightly for what he had done.
http://i.dailymail.co...0000578-3_634x437.jpg
http://i.dailymail.co...00578-382_636x417.jpg
/// Not excusing the crime, but no one was hurt ///
It wasn't for the trying, hopefully this poor woman escaped unharmed.
http://i.dailymail.co...00578-703_634x434.jpg
This thug got off lightly for what he had done.
http://i.dailymail.co...0000578-3_634x437.jpg
http://i.dailymail.co...00578-382_636x417.jpg
I completely understand where you're coming from JTP, but in the sentences that were handed out to rioters I believe she courts have got it about right.
What happened last summer was exceptional, and sentences need to reflect the feelings of the public, otherwise the public will lose faith in the judiciary.
What I thought was marvellous was how swiftly justice was dealt out. You go out to rob, to destroy and to loot - well enjoy your prison term because that flat screen telly has just screwed up the rest of your life.
I remember seeing that department store ablaze on the news and I applaud the police and courts for banging up the <insert relevant swear word> who caused that much pain (as in mental anguish - pain doesn't always have to be physical.
<rant over - thanks for your patience>
What happened last summer was exceptional, and sentences need to reflect the feelings of the public, otherwise the public will lose faith in the judiciary.
What I thought was marvellous was how swiftly justice was dealt out. You go out to rob, to destroy and to loot - well enjoy your prison term because that flat screen telly has just screwed up the rest of your life.
I remember seeing that department store ablaze on the news and I applaud the police and courts for banging up the <insert relevant swear word> who caused that much pain (as in mental anguish - pain doesn't always have to be physical.
<rant over - thanks for your patience>
You think he should have got 5 years? He got 5 years he'll be out in 5. Dam savage should be actually inside for at least 10 for this. It's not just property damage it's the whole attitude that cannot be tolerated. The losss of a century old building+ business is always going to get a severe punishment. Are you saying we should not take account of what is destroyed? What if he burned down the British museum or worse Labour party HQ?
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