The Edl Do Not Condone Violence As A Way Of Furthering Their Cause

[sp1814]

I truly believe that (maintains a straight face).

That being the case - should they be encouraged to organise a 'Not In Our Name' march in order to distance themselves from the recent rise in attacks on Muslim mosques and schools.

There is no evidence to suggest that the EDL are in any way responsible for these recent attacks, but if it turns out that these arson attacks have been carried out by people associated with the EDL, or heaven forfend, the BNP - is it not sensible to demand that they take to the streets to protect their good name?

(Wow...I was able to type that last sentence without my finger pads bursting into flame - wonders indeed will never cease).

[wolf63]

They are bigoted eejits. If they weren't picking on the Muslims it would be the gays, ginger haired persons, females or some other section of society that would be the target for their frustration.

[seadogg]

I guess it is inevitable that organisations like EDL will attract the violent fringe.
That applies to all these mono race groups which is why the majority of decent English or Muslim folk will have nothing to do with any of them.

[sp1814]

Ah - hang on...the EDL are not exclusively one race, and I am loathe to use the 'B' word to describe their membership. I am almost certain that I've never met a member of either the EDL or BNP, so I would not like to cast aspersions on their collective or individual academic achievements.

That would be (ahem)..,prejudicial.

[ludwig]

// should they be encouraged to organise a 'Not In Our Name' march in order to distance themselves from the recent rise in attacks on Muslim mosques and schools. //

I see what you've done here. The answer is that it would be nice if they did, then we might be more inclined to believe them.

[naomi24]

Whilst I in no way support these loony organisations, in the wake of the horrendous slaughter of Lee Rigby, I really would like to see Muslims organise a 'Not in our Name' march. What a great effort that would be towards social cohesion.

[FredPuli43]

naomi, how did know you'd say that? I was just about to say to wait because someone would say that within seconds.

[jake-the-peg]

I think that was the point of the question Naomi

After the Lee Rigby murder people were going around accusing muslims of not denouncing it strongly enough (as if they ever could for those caling for it)

I think SP was turning this around to suggest that those same people were being hypocrits in not applying the same standards in calling for the EDL to distance themselves.

Maybe a bit of a 'bear-trap' for so late .

As for social cohesion - perhaps the EDL would like to invite local muslims communities back for tea in return for that incident the other week

[sp1814]

naomi24

I totally see your point. Really, I do. But attacks on innocent Muslims going about their daily business and the (possible - let's not jump to conclusions) firebombing of schools and mosques, whilst not as horrific as a broad daylight murder - is still something that the EDL should distance itself from.

If we expect Muslims to stand up and say, 'Not in our name', surely we must expect the same of those who purport to be a peace-loving protest movement.

If it transpires that these arson attacks are in any way connected to the EDL, and they don't strenuously denounce them, then surely it's fair to accuse them of what so many accuse them of 'complicity by silence' - a charge that has been directed at Muslims?

[douglas9401]

Okay, but who goes first or does one lot stand around waiting for the other to blink and the whole worthless merry-go-round just carries on until a sky god appears and slaps the neck of a believer.

[FredPuli43]

Why don't we have protest marches by the English to say that they dissociate themselves from this organisation that dares to claim that it speaks for the English and some by the British to say the same of the British National Party?

[wolf63]

Why don't they all sit down with a nice cuppa.

[Spoonboy]

The EDL are trying to disassociate themselves from the Mosque attack in a bid for damage limitation. Well, that's new!

[Svejk]

You might just as well ask the same question of the W I., NUT or the gay community in case one of their supporters was involved.
For while there's no doubt who attacked Lee Rigby we have no idea who's responsible for the incidents in your OP.
Naturally, that wouldn't suit your muck-raking, divisive agenda so well, but it would make as much sense, Sp.

[sp1814]

http://www.theanswerbank.co.uk/members/svejk/

[sp1814]

Svejk

I was being lazy by clicking on your membership name to copy and paste rather than spelling it....didn't quite work out.

Anyhoo...'mucking-raking and divisive'?

Me?

I'm abhorred and hurt!

[mikey4444]

The EDL are just the normal shaven-headed, uneducated, racists that the extreme right have always been. Its the National Front all over again. I have just listened to their leader being interviewed on Radio 4.

"There are no Nazis in the EDL" apparently. Lets stop giving these idiots the oxygen of publicity.

[emmie]

until there is some actual evidence of wrongdoing what's the point in speculating. Surely there will be cctv footage at whatever venue violence has occurred. No one has been caught for the grafitti sprayed on the memorials, perhaps it's time they all got together, EDL and the Muslim leaders in our society and stated their grievances, parley is better than this impasse.

[emmie]

and stop giving oxygen to Anjem Choudary and his followers, they get far more air time, the tv companies have been using him as a sounding board for years. It may not be the only reason, but it's because of people like him, and all the other hate preachers who have been allowed on the streets, to say things which are not just undemocratic, but downright treasonous, if you like, that the EDL will come out of their hidey holes. Fuel to an increasingly large fire, and this will get worse.

[naomi24]

SP, // If we expect Muslims to stand up and say, 'Not in our name', surely we must expect the same of those who purport to be a peace-loving protest movement.//

My point is that if Muslims organised ‘Not in my Name’ protests, they would, in effect, be fighting the same corner as the EDL, leaving the EDL no cause for complaint against Muslims per se. That’d confuse ‘em!

[emmie]

they won't, they didn't do so before, perhaps they fear that if they do so they will be attacked on the streets. This will cause more fear and division, just what some in both camps want.