A federal Europe has always been the plan, and still is.
"Lamont tells us that he remembers the shock he felt when Bérégovoy had said to him, "My children will live in a politically united Europe. And I think that is a great thing". What he saw very clearly then "was the force of the political will to create a monetary union and a political union".
Individual countries in Europe may have a 'democracy' the problem is 'Brussels' is not a democracy and they rule everything.
It is quite amazing that even with Europe on the verge of financial collapse the pro Europeans still cant see the problems.
Forge strong trade links with Europe certainly, but anything else is folly.
As for the UK wanting Europe to keep the Greeks in, I think you may find that not all are in agreement with that.
Most Financial institutions have already ring fenced (or indeed writen off the books) Greek debt so the impact will be minimal.
Also Banks have already got the mechanism ready for when the Greeks leave. The only question is what will the new currency be? The 'NEW DRAKMAR' maybe ?
Greece in dire trouble, but Spain now cannot afford the interest rate on their loans - seems like quite a few countries are in line for some sort of help - which the rest of the EU cannot or will not afford it.
EUSSR is about right, the power in Europe is in the hands of the SIT brigade. Individual governements are so frightened of up setting the Status Quo that they will go along with anything to kepp the party going. Would any of us join a club where only a few pay subs and the rest get free drinks?
It was the LACK of control that got Greece where it is now.
Greece dug their own hole but the EU is to blame for it affecting them. Greece did not meet the conditions set for them to join the EU but they were let in anyway.
Greece went merrily on lrenfing money to build stuff they did not need and their government failed to put any controls in place.
The original question on this post is one of the stupidest and most ignorant statements I have seen on this forum.