Did this teacher deserve the sack?

[anotheoldgit]

http://www.dailymail....na-milkshake-him.html

[mike11111]

I can let you into Miss McIlroy's secret, as I used to do this with the aid of a small cosmetic mirror in my hand as I wrote on the board. The kids were baffled when, with my back still to the class I could say, "Stop picking your nose, Jones!"

[mike11111]

"Sneaky" is the true art of teaching, and quite often the only way to survive.

[sandyRoe]

We had a real tartar of a teacher called Mr O'Hara. One day he was writing on the "chalkboard" and somebody threw a slice of buttered bap at him. It missed but impacted butter side first and stuck to the board beside his head.

[mike11111]

God, you must have been rich! Real butter on bread, something of which we could only dream, and you chucked it at the board? It wouldn't have lasted a nanosecond in my day before some hungry little sod scraped it off the board and ate it.

[vivandorron]

And two hands for a Teacher to grab you by the scruff of the neck.

Bring back those days ,I say.

Ron.

[sandyRoe]

True. If you'd just had a slice of buttered bap thrown at you you might feel justified in twisting an ear right off the offending little culprit.

[mike11111]

"In my day there were two sides to every story"

Unlike today, when there appear to be two sides to every Tory.

[factor-fiction]

Being hit by either spitballs blown through hollow biro tubes is an occupational hazard for any teacher who turns his or her back on the class. With the better classes it's only paper aeroplanes or screwed up balls of paper that hit you so that's no too bad.

Rightly or wrongly teachers should avoid grabbing pupils. We've probably all done it but it really winds some pupils up and they will often lash out or accuse you of assault. It's very tempting when they blatantly ignore an instruction and try to walk away from you but the best thing to do is to let them go.

In this case here I wonder why the teacher held him for so long and didn't send another student to get another teacher. to help I think the teacher probably just 'lost it' as pupils say and maybe many of us would have done the same.

[sandyRoe]

This was a class, 4F, that the staff had given up on. We were all just waiting 'til we could leave.

[sandyRoe]

I've always had more than a smidgen of sympathy for the teacher who set about an unruly pupil with an iron dumbell a year or so back.

[mike11111]

I remember that. Did they not try to do him for attempted murder for something which 20 years previously would have been classed as "reasonable chastisement" with which the law was not concerned.

[sandyRoe]

He was acquitted of the more serious charges

http://www.telegraph....attempted-murder.html

[Ellipsis]

When I was at school in the early eighties, a teacher "lost it" and punched a boy hard. Afterwards the teacher came into my form to tell his head of department and he looked absolutely sick with worry.

The boy was a well-known troublemaker but, to his eternal credit, he admitted that he'd probably pushed things too far and that was the end of it!

Teachers these days are sometimes placed in impossible situations. Kids have all of the rights but none of the responsibilities, and the support network just isn't there for all teachers to avoid all impossible situations at all times. At times when it does break down, you'd hope that your senior management would support you, but many don't have the backbone; as in this case:

Punishment for assaulting a teacher: 4 day suspension
Punishment for mildly reacting to assault: dismissal, end of career

It seems inequitable.

[mike11111]

"Kids have all of the rights but none of the responsibilities,"

I could not have phrased it better myself.

[anotheoldgit]

/// One day he was writing on the "chalkboard" ///

What's one of them Sandy?

We had Black-Boards.

[mike11111]

Wash your mouth out AOG, blackboards went out with black sheep. Today they are called interactive learning facilities. Do try to keep up!

[factor-fiction]

We call them white boards and have had no complaints