Should the titles of Mr & Mrs be scrapped?

[anotheoldgit]

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Once again it seems that some wish to remove the words Mr & Mrs from official forms and paperwork in case they offend the transgender community.

[boxtops]

JJ good point, but if it's changed to suit that group, it directly affects all the rest of us

[anotheoldgit]

ChuckFickens

/// LOL.... so once again a vague suggestion by a couple of people on an advisory panel has been changed into "plans to" by the papers! ///

Yes but all too often we have seen these suggestions turn into action taken, in the name of PC.

Have we not see the introduction of that stupid word Ms, our nationality changed on forms from English to British, not to mention all the different classes of British and nationalities and the introduction of a variety of foreign languages on these forms also?

Why not go the whole way and get rid of all titles ie Lord, Lady, Baron, Baroness, Doctor, Reverend, Colonel, Group Captain, Captain etc, in case we offend some lesser person.

But then we come to a more touchy definition regarding public toilet facilities, what do we put on the doors so as to specify gender?

So as not to offend anyone and also to prevent any confusion, may I suggest Men, Women, and Others?

[rowanwitch]

Maybe we should just have XX and XY to indicate the gender we wish to be treated as Aussies would be XXXX and XXXY though

[joggerjayne]

Boxy ...

Yes, I know. I'm not saying I agree with it. I think it's a bit dopey.

[The Builder]

...since Mrs is just a contraction of "Mistress", I would have thought Sqad would hope that would be kept ;o)

[douglas9401]

The people involved in trawling the country to find anything that may be perceived as offensive by someone, somewhere at some time might be of more use to us sitting in a pickup truck on the way to repairing potholes or picking litter.
They clearly have too much time on their hands.

[anotheoldgit]

jno

/// I have never used either title, so I am unbothered. ///

That's interesting, how do you address your correspondence, ie formal letters, personal letters Greetings cards, invitations etc?

[LazyGun]

I would be only to happy to see the eradication of titles of ennoblement and entitlement.

Titles related to professional qualifications should remain.

I see no pressing need to change to a different structure of title assignment, but if it simplfied things, i would have no objection. As it is, we have a kind of hodge podge title assignment, based upon gender distinction, marital status, and adulthood - all of which can lead to confusion or even insult when addressing correspondence.

[Baldric]

Yet again a Council bending over (insert direction of choice) to pander to the wishes of a minority, although to be fair maybe not such a minority given the location!

[Playbill]

I was taught that in non-personal situations you do not refer to yourself as 'Mr' or 'Mrs' but use your given and family name: for example -'Jim Smith' or 'Jane Smith'

Again, in non-personal situations, it is the response or reply to you where the title 'Mr or Mrs' should be used.

Imagine the scene in a Bond film if, on being asked his name, Bond replies 'Mr Bond'. Does not sound as good as 'Bond, James Bond' does it?

[SueMoneyRowley]

I hate being called Ms!

[Sqad]

What has happened to the term "MIZZ?" we don't seem to hear much of it now.....has it disappeared?
It was used by certain women, lesbians, man -haters, unmarried women, separated married women, to denote their feminine status.

[Ellipsis]

> Imagine the scene in a Bond film if, on being asked his name, Bond replies 'Mr Bond'. Does not sound as good as 'Bond, James Bond' does it?

"No, Mr Bond, I expect you to die." Such formal civility in one quite mad.

> Councillors in Brighton will vote on the proposal to remove the words from official forms and paperwork after complaints that they forced people to ‘choose between genders’.

Don't names do this too? E.g. "Rod, Jane and Freddy" was a band with two men and a woman in it. Don't tell me otherwise!

And aren't titles sometimes supposed to stand in for names? E.g. Mr Bond tells us we're dealing with a man whose surname is Bond, as does James Smith. Is "James" being a man's name offensive? Where do we draw the line?

[Ellipsis]

Bond, not Smith!

[anotheoldgit]

LazyGun

/// I would be only to happy to see the eradication of titles of ennoblement and entitlement. ///

I was Baptised a Christian, so in that case it is my entitlement for my 'fore name' to be classed as my 'Christian Name', but "I AM NOT GIVEN THE CHOICE".

[anotheoldgit]

triggerhippy

/// So, have Brighton council also suggested we do away with Doctor, Captain, etc ? ///

Where does it say that, or even that I stated that they did?

Please read what is there, not what might be a subject for contention.

[Baldric]

^^^ The words 'Pot and Kettle' come to mind! ^^^

[anotheoldgit]

With some foreign nationalities especially Asian, the 'Fore Name' does not always denote whether or not that person is either Male or Female.

Which must make it double confusing if that person happens to be a transgender also.

[jackthehat]

<<With some foreign nationalities especially Asian, the 'Fore Name' does not always denote whether or not that person is either Male or Female. >>

I expect it does to those familiar with such names.