Should all Afghan troops and police now be treated with suspicion?

[anotheoldgit]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-20138614

Two more of our troops killed by these cowedly rabble turn-coats, how much more are we expected to accept before those in power admit that not one Afghan can be fully trusted?

[sp1814]

By the way AB Editor - nice Holloween logo. Can we expect similar updates for future events?

[askyourgran]

Once all the troops leave Afghanistan the Taliban will move in. The Afghans are in a no-win situation, they will have to cosy up or fight with them when the troops go. Not really trustworthy enough to turn your back on them.

[Gromit]

In context, an Afghan Policeman was murdered by British soldiers at the weekend as he was washing his hands for prayers. The distrust goes both ways.

But the future, of us being able to leave successfully, and of Afghanistan as a secure country, depends on a smooth handover of power. Unfortunately, we have to perservere and see this through to the end.

[emmie]

no we don't have to persevere, there is no end to this, it is as i said a no win situation, just more dead servicemen and women and the locals who are caught in the middle of this nightmare. One day just as they have in Ireland peace will have to be brokered, it won't be pretty nor will it be what the majority want, however one hopes it will stop this unnecessary bloodshed.

[youngmafbog]

How much oil comes out of Afghanistan SP?

[grumpy01]

If the Russians couldn't win with their massive resourses what chance have we.Obama(hope he loses next week) can give awithdraw date foe U.S. troops why cant our government.

[grumpy01]

Sorry, for U.S. troops

[Gromit]

// How much oil comes out of Afghanistan SP? //

Very little now but it could be a lot. There are huge oil fields in the Caspian Sea but it is landlocked. The nearest coat is in Pakistan. Afghanistan is between the two and is the direct route a pipeline would take.

One of the first things George W Bush did when he got in the White House was to invite those nice Taliban fellows over to talk to his oil company mates in Texas.

http://news.bbc.co.uk...d/west_asia/37021.stm

[Gromit]

* The nearest coast *

[youngmafbog]

Pity he wasn't more successful.

[anotheoldgit]

EcclesCake

/// Truly and unbelievably ridiculous. ///

I wonder if you would be brave enough to turn your back on any one of them, if you were out there in that Hell Hole.

Very easy for someone sitting safely in the UK, tapping out on one's keyboard to be so brave as to trust everyone.

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[EcclesCake]

I have been in that 'hell hole' as you choose to call it. I am guessing that I have spent rather more time there than you have and would suggest I am therefore rather better informed than you about the realities of the country.

In the same way that I would weigh up the risks in this country before venturing into unknown areas surrounded by unknown people I took the same approach in Afghanistan.

[anotheoldgit]

jake-the-peg

/// Oh it also increases the call from people in the west to withdraw troops immediately and to distrust the Afghan forces. ///

In the circumstances and to anyone with any sense, that sounds like a very good idea.

/// The Taliban will be very pleased with you AOG! ///

If it saves even one more Nato service personnel's life, I am not bothered if the Taliban are very pleased with me or not, they are nothing to me.

And since you are always criticising our troops for killing civilians perhaps you would care to read this.

http://www.huffington...deaths_n_1997350.html

But then knowing you, you would most likely agree with the Taliban and say it's just Western propaganda once more.

[anotheoldgit]

LazyGun

/// The usual over the top hyperbole from AoG. "Not one Afghan can be fully trusted". Way to right off a whole nation. ///

And are you another one sitting comfortable in the UK?

Let me ask you for a truthful answer to this question, "if you yourself was out there would you be 100% able to pick out those you could fully trust"?

[Zeuhl]

<And are you another one sitting comfortable in the UK? >

aog - so far you appear to have ignored eccles statement that he has indeed been in Afghanistan and knows more about the country, its people and the risks involved than you do

[EcclesCake]

Zeuhl....why have reality when you can have hyperobole?

[anotheoldgit]

sp1814

/// Is that like saying because of Jimmy Saville and Gary Glittler and Pete Townsend that not one elderly gentleman can be trusted around kids? ///

One could broaden that statement and say if one lined up a variety of mixed persons Elderly and young Men, elderly and young Women, also homosexuals.

Would anyone be 100% sure that any one of them could be trusted around young kids.

Always safer to verge towards caution, don't you think?

[anotheoldgit]

EcclesCake

/// In the same way that I would weigh up the risks in this country before venturing into unknown areas surrounded by unknown people I took the same approach in Afghanistan. ///

Oh so we can take it that you wasn't there in a military capacity then?

Because had you been so, you would not have enjoyed the choice of venturing into unknown areas surrounded by unknown people, you instead would have had to go where you were ordered to go.

/// In the same way that I would weigh up the risks in this country before venturing into unknown areas surrounded by unknown people I took the same approach in Afghanistan. ///

Oh so you now admit that you don't trust them either?