What is so good about this country?

[Ric.ror]

I thought I heard recently that in 2013 this country will experience a flood of migrants from other EU countries such as Bulgaria and Hungry
Why do they choose to come here and not countres such as Germany or France

Please could I have sensible answers and not rants

TIA

[chrisgel]

No problem with them coming here to try and improve their lot in life, that's understandable. I do have a problem with the ones that want to change "here" to another version of where they've come from.

[emmie]

Ickeria, Poles cracked the Enigma code, humm wonder what Alan Turing and his little band of merry followers would think of that i wonder had they been alive.

[brionon]

No one has to carry an identity card. Once you're in you're in.

[emmie]

chrisgel, here doesn't look like here anymore, it looks like Bangladesh, or perhaps some backwater in deepest Pakistan.

[modeller]

sp1814 There is one problem they work to Polish building regulations which are much lower than in the UK and Germany . Many people in Poland use German companies because they know their standards are higher.
Having said that all the building work around here seems to use Polish labour because they work hard including weekends.

[pdq1]

Freedom to speak your mind.....until that is Levenson publishes his report and the press are unable to report anything interesting.

[ZedBloke]

sorry I'm new here and a huge fan of Alan Turing so forgive me but...
Ichteria...."We have Poles (admittedly not migrant ones) largely to thank for cracking the Enigma code in WWII. ".......sorry so so sorry but you have been reading some odd things!

[ichkeria]

"Ickeria, Poles cracked the Enigma code, humm wonder what Alan Turing and his little band of merry followers would think of that i wonder had they been alive. "

I'm not sure how merry they were, nor how little, but they'd have been unable to do all their fantastic work without the knowledge gained from the machines retrieved by Poles at sea.
Anyway the point is irrelevant to the matter at hand so apologies for raising it :-)

[Sqad]

ichkeria

Demonstrating courage that is hard to comprehend, three young men swam from Petard to U-559. Lt. Tony Fasson, Able Seaman Colin Grazier, and Canteen Assistant Tommy Brown descend into the sinking submarine. They wanted to retrieve the Enigma machine.

There were no Poles as far as i know involved.

[modeller]

em 10 It was a Pole who made the first breakthrough because they obtained the first enigma machines that had been designed for civilian use .
They gave the machines to us and showed us how it was used. It was Turing who was able to use that information to help break the military version and subsequently to break the Japanese ones.

[emmie]

pdq, if you think there is freedom to speak your mind, think again.

[ZedBloke]

The code books and machine were retrieved by HMS bulldog, now I don't discount the fact that there may have been some poles on board but placing them above the Bletchley team and indeed the navy in "cracking" the code does seem somewhat like claiming the stable lad who once gave Red Rum a carrot as the winner of 2 grand nationals. I'd hoped news was at least a semi serious category!

[emmie]

modeller, that seems to be the case, however the code breakers of Bletchley Park have always been thought of as the ones who by and large brought the war that little bit closer to ending. Look up Tommy Flowers, very interesting man.

[ZedBloke]

3 grand nationals!

[emmie]

quite a genius really

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tommy_Flowers

[ichkeria]

The Poles played a crucial role in the recovery of and also the reconstruction of, the Enigma cipher system throughout the thirties leading up to and into WWII. It was the Poles who made the first successful crypt attacks on the early Enigma machines (hardly surprising they were keen to do this given the threat posed by the Nazis to their country)

[modeller]

sqd I think it was that exploit which enabled us to break their navel code and was quite a bit later than what we obtained from the Poles some of which had been obtained by them pre-war.

[Sqad]

ichkeria......thanks...I stand corrected.

[Sqad]

modeller...indeed.

[ZedBloke]

It was the Naval Enigma that was the much more difficult problem.