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Amsterdam to create 'scum villages'
Amsterdam is to create "Scum villages" where nuisance neighbours and anti-social tenants will be exiled from the city and rehoused in caravans or containers with "minimal services" under constant police supervision. In an effort to protect the law-abiding, should Britain do something similar?
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I have reservations about this for a few reasons which are briefly these:-
1. It's very easy to level down- less so to level up and I think places like this will normalise unpleasant behaviour.
2. Are these going to include people with young children- if so that could not just propagate the very behaviour we're trying to curb but be quite dangerous.
3. What happens to ' mixed' families- where there are no problems with some member but lots of problems with others?
4. Does anyone really think that this alone will change anything- if the underlying problems of WHY people are antisocial are still there then it won't alter or solves anything, just create a sub culture.
1. It's very easy to level down- less so to level up and I think places like this will normalise unpleasant behaviour.
2. Are these going to include people with young children- if so that could not just propagate the very behaviour we're trying to curb but be quite dangerous.
3. What happens to ' mixed' families- where there are no problems with some member but lots of problems with others?
4. Does anyone really think that this alone will change anything- if the underlying problems of WHY people are antisocial are still there then it won't alter or solves anything, just create a sub culture.
It's only a bit like AB on a bad day - the well-to-do residents of News and Crosswords would happily see the scum from CB walled-off and deprived of all but minimal services.
< which for the benefit of the 'hard of thinking' is not another 'typically crass' intervention, but an allegorical musing designed to show the imherent stupidity of the Amsterdam idea >
< which for the benefit of the 'hard of thinking' is not another 'typically crass' intervention, but an allegorical musing designed to show the imherent stupidity of the Amsterdam idea >
Haven't councils and housing authorities been doing this for years, where i grew up there was 2 local council estates, decent families were housed in one and the scum were housed in another!
Who determines who these nuisance neighbours are, you could end up being exiled because of somebody having a personal vendetta against you, if somebody owns there house how ca you force them to move to this area, how can you stop them moving out of this area or is it going to be a modern day concentration camp, the next step will be having white families in one, black families in one etc.
Who determines who these nuisance neighbours are, you could end up being exiled because of somebody having a personal vendetta against you, if somebody owns there house how ca you force them to move to this area, how can you stop them moving out of this area or is it going to be a modern day concentration camp, the next step will be having white families in one, black families in one etc.
Hello Naomi (.....are you AOG in drag today?.....-only kidding)
The problem with "under constant police supervision " is that it will divert already hard-pressed police resources from other areas .
This may give the (more dangerous) clever thinking professional criminal a better chance of burgling your house when you're at work as there will be less people and police around to watch what's going on .
The problem with "under constant police supervision " is that it will divert already hard-pressed police resources from other areas .
This may give the (more dangerous) clever thinking professional criminal a better chance of burgling your house when you're at work as there will be less people and police around to watch what's going on .
argorstran, //are you AOG in drag today?.....-only kidding//
No, I'm not. This was being discussed on the Wright Stuff this morning - similarly my question earlier about the man with the brain tumour who is being deported from New Zealand - and I thought both would make for interesting discussion here. I haven't given my opinion on either - I've simply thrown a couple of questions, that I thought were interesting, open to ABers to discuss.
No, I'm not. This was being discussed on the Wright Stuff this morning - similarly my question earlier about the man with the brain tumour who is being deported from New Zealand - and I thought both would make for interesting discussion here. I haven't given my opinion on either - I've simply thrown a couple of questions, that I thought were interesting, open to ABers to discuss.
naomi24
/// I've simply thrown a couple of questions, that I thought were interesting, open to ABers to discuss. ///
Now you should know better than to post questions that are not loyal to the party line.
I notice that you also thought it wise not to give any opinion, perhaps a wise decision since it is also very unsafe to hold any opinions that are different to those of others.
/// I've simply thrown a couple of questions, that I thought were interesting, open to ABers to discuss. ///
Now you should know better than to post questions that are not loyal to the party line.
I notice that you also thought it wise not to give any opinion, perhaps a wise decision since it is also very unsafe to hold any opinions that are different to those of others.
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