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Massacre At Primary School In Usa
Just heard this on the News - heartbreaking I am in tears - those poor little children and those devastated parents. What is Humanity coming to ;-(
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For more on marking an answer as the "Best Answer", please visit our FAQ.To send a child to school and never see them again alive is unimaginable -and those poor children who have survived what they must have seen. I am unsure if gun laws would prevent this sort of thing -look at whats happened in the UK since the Gun Laws. I could use this post as a platform to harp on about violent videos and games kids play, gun laws and all the other things in modern life that contribute to these abominations -but right now its just raw horror and emotion.
I doubt even this will change the gun-laws, there is a large section of the US population that uses its interpretation of the Constitution to its own ends. John Hancock and the other signatories never envisgaed a situation like this but I really don't think anything will happen, the NRA will be at work already.
Unfortunate, I know, but Dunblane had an enormous impact on UK gun laws, far more than previous horrendous incidents (like Hungerford an others); if this tragic event in Newton, Waterbury, an area I know pretty well, can result in change to NRA and conservative (NO not Tory) thinking as to Guns and the "freedom to bear arms" then some good may come out of it.
Apparently the guns were purchased by his mother. Lots of rumour and misinformation here (USA) throughout the day but no debate on gun control. Rumour the shooter was mentally ill. If someone is going to shoot people they will get a gun from somewhere as in Dunblane. Questions here are how nobody saw it coming
The Second Amendment (Amendment II) to the United States Constitution is the part of the United States Bill of Rights that protects the right of the people to keep and bear arms. It was adopted on December 15, 1791, along with the rest of the Bill of Rights.
In 2008 and 2010, the Supreme Court issued two Second Amendment decisions. In District of Columbia v. Heller, 554 U.S. 570 (2008), the Court ruled that the Second Amendment protects an individual's right to possess a firearm, unconnected to service in a militia[1][2] and to use that arm for traditionally lawful purposes, such as self-defence within the home. In dicta, the Court listed many long standing prohibitions and restrictions on firearms possession as being consistent with the Second Amendment.[3] In McDonald v. Chicago, 561 U.S. 3025 (2010), the Court ruled that the Second Amendment limits state and local governments to the same extent that it limits the federal government.[4]
of course others supporting the right to bear arms may turn up with statistics going on about population size and per capita or whatever, now china isn't on that list and maybe figures are suppressed for that nation, but it would be intersting to see if it is about population size or the right to bear arms, Do US citizens think that the right to bar arms also means the right to shoot people? Is there a blurry line there that some Americans get confused about?
em10, All men are created equal is also in there, and the white slave-owning men who wrote it meant it to apply to them, not to women or black men. The much vaunted Constitution can be amended in the light of future developments and now is the time for the hard-liners of the NRA to stop hiding behind its skirts.
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