New Hillsborough Inquest

[springbulb81]

Just seen in the news that a new inquest into the Hillsborough disaster is going to be carried out.

Hasn't there just been one and what do they hope to achieve going over old ground?

[jackthehat]

Justice, where there had been nne before.

[jackthehat]

*none

[BlueToffee]

They hope to get the truth, and a just outcome for the victims and their families

[springbulb81]

Justice for what? Hasnt there just been recent inquest?

[jd_1984]

Justice, the truth and finally some closure for the families that lost loved ones and had the facts hidden and twisted for 3 decades......... That good enough?

[jackthehat]

No.

There was an inquiry which threw into doubt a lot of the evidence relied upon in the inquests.

Now there will be new inquests based on the 'correct' evidence.

[jd_1984]

Read up on the details of how today has come about, the inquest you may be talking about is the one about the alledged cover up by South Yorkshire police earlier this year. That is a different aspect on the road for justice.

[springbulb81]

ok I'm with you. Going to be hard to pin the blame considering so long ago though right?

[jackthehat]

No.

It's not just a case of 'pinning blame', it's more to do with not allowing those who were at fault to wriggle out of it any longer......and that is right across the board.

[Sipowicz]

Springbulb, I suggest you find out the difference between an Inquiery and an Inquest!

[Sipowicz]

Typo, inquiry.

[springbulb81]

well the dictionary gives a pretty similar definition!

[Gromit]

No there hasn't just been an inquest. There has been an apology for the last inquest because it flawed.

[ELVIS68]

I think it's wrong the police have to take all the blame

[joeluke]

Hillsborough supporters won't be happy until every copper on duty that day is dangling from a length of hemp

It was 23 years ago, nothing will bring the victims back, move on

If the gate hadn't been opened the likelihood is that fans would have been crushed to death outside against the turnstile walls

[ELVIS68]

Totally agree joeluke, the police had no option other than to open the gates to avoid a disaster outside, those fans then poured into the ground which caused the crush behind the goal.

What they should take into account is the police back then didn't have any health and safety concerns, their job was to herd fans from A to B.

A similar incident happened at the same ground in the early 80s when Spurs played a semi final game there, sadly lessons were not learnt.

[joeluke]

Yes Elvis, Spurs/Wolves semi final in 1981

[ELVIS68]

Also I'd like to know why there was such a large amount of fans still outside the ground at kick off time

[craft1948]

I don't know the answer to this one, but I do know that if someone I loved died I would need someone to blame..............and I think that is the main problem.

[spudqueen]

Elvis - the 1989 semi was a replay of the 1988 one, same teams, same ground. But there were no problems at the 1988 semi. However, by the time of the 1989 semi there had been a change in police chief in Yorkshire, and the policing at the game was completely different from a year before.
Joeluke, whilst I agree with you that there appear to be some vindictive people out there I think that the majority of the families of those killed just want to know the truth. Remember that the recent inquery found that 41 of those that died may have been saved if different actions had been taken.
Craft, you're right, the actions of these families are no different from those taken by other bereaved people. Only this morning on BBC news there was a lady who was campaigning for pubs and clubs to not be serving alcohol in glass bottles and/or glasses after 9pm because her husband was stabbed to death by someone in a pub with a broken glass bottle.