What Is Wrong With These People

[ShallowQueen]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2256717/Indian-politician-Bikram-Singh-Brahma-beaten-villagers-raping-woman.html

Is it a cultural thing?

[Zeuhl]

/when you yourself is in desperate need of such tuition. /

is that something else what you has wrote in gittish aog?

and fyi translate means

- to change words into a different language

- to change something into a new form

any clear, honest communication should not require that provided the author understands English - rather than gittish, like what you is using

[Bazile]

naomi24

//Since the subject of the question is rape, it's obvious to me at least, that the OP is talking about rapists. //

The OP , i think is not just talking abour raoists anywhere / any country but rather rapists from that part of the world / that particular culture .

If that's not teh case why asks '' is it a cultural thing ''

[naomi24]

Bazile, yes indeed – that’s exactly how I interpreted the question, and if you see my post at 9.40 this morning, you’ll see that I said it is a cultural thing. The post you refer to was in response to SP’s subsequent question – although I realise now I didn’t answer that adequately enough.

[LazyGun]

Just so we do not demonise one specific culture over instances of appalling mysogeny and violence to women, a timely reminder that disgusting incidents do happen in other cultures - and people within that culture will rush to defend the alleged rapists, piling humiliation upon degradation.

The Ohio gang rape instance did not have such a tragic outcome, but nonetheless the story as read is frankly disgusting.....
Take a read, and see for yourself...

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/01/03/hackers-produce-disturbing-video-evidence-in-ohio-gang-rape-case/

[naomi24]

LG, but this is about one specific culture. We know it happens elsewhere - but two wrongs don't make a right.

[keyplus90]

Rapes happen in every country. In India, it is true that it is more to do with culture mainly in rural areas. Caste system is very strong and women from a lower caste are considered object with whom anyone from an upper class can play. Fortunately things are changing and this one example proves that. Otherwise usually it would be almost impossible for people to point towards a politician who obviously have power and status.

But serious crimes like rape whether in India, Britain or any other country will never be controlled unless first of all the reasons behind those rapes are looked into and then people who commit are punished properly.

[naomi24]

Keyplus, //But serious crimes like rape whether in India, Britain or any other country will never be controlled unless first of all the reasons behind those rapes are looked into ...//

So what, in your opinion, are the reasons?

[keyplus90]

I will let you know the reasons once you are in a position to do something about those reasons, otherwise knowing you it's just waste of time.

[naomi24]

Keyplus, you don't know me, but that aside, you wouldn't be thinking the girls are at fault for being out and about, would you? Just a guess.

[argorstran]

No it is not a cultural thing . The Delhi rape case is no more representative of Indian culture than what Jimmy Savile did is representative of British culture .

[naomi24]

argorstran, I wouldn't suggest it's representative of India as a whole, but you're mistaken in thinking it isn't cultural. It's known as 'Eve Baiting'.

http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Eve_baiting

[emmie]

i would suggest it is more cultural, considering how women are thought of, the Indian women campaigners have said as such

[FredPuli43]

What Savile did was representative of British culture at the time. That girls did not report or, if they did were not believed, or it was dismissed as of no great significance, just one of those things, and it was subject to law that required corroboration, an element never required in any other assault, all points to a society which was different then from now. As different from then as the society before which held that a woman lost all right to her property on marriage and could not vote. Those societies are not so very far away in time from the present.

No doubt the reason why India has so few rapes compared to Britain is not that rapes are not frequent there but that complaints, prosecutions and convictions are rare. That any have received such wide publicity and such fervent response is, at least, a promising sign.

[argorstran]

I strongly disagree with you Fred , particularly your second "No doubt the reason ...etc" paragraph .
I stand by what I said in my comment at 16.25 .

[FredPuli43]

argorstran, do you think that rape is far rarer in India than here? Some of us are old enough to remember judges directing juries to acquit because "when a woman says 'no' she often means 'yes[" (to quote one High Court Judge, I heard at Lewes) and there was not sufficient corroboration, in their view. Different times, and that was a case which the Crown had thought fit for trial, not some case which they had not thought strong enough to bring at all or which the police had dismissed as unworthy of a charge.

Do you not suspect that India today is closer to England then (1970) than England now ?

[237SJ]

I`ve never felt threatened in India but I came back from Delhi last night and was working with my Delhi based colleagues. One of the girls said that rapes happen every day in Delhi. They`re quite commonplace. I`m not sure it`s to do with the caste system either. I do remember one of "our" girls saying that she takes a safety pin with her on public transport so she can stick it into any man who touches her up. The news there focuses on nothing else. There is a huge outcry and constant coverage about Braveheart (which the press call the victim). I did hear a rumour that all of the buses have been ordered to remove their curtains so that what is going on inside can`t be hidden and sure enough, our bus had it`s curtains removed.