Should The Us Second Amendment (Adopted In 1791) Be Scrapped ?

[Canary42]

Here is an example of the sort of people who support the "right to bear arms" across the pond.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/father-of-sixyearold-boy-killed-in-sandy-hook-massacre-heckled-by-progun-activists-8471178.html

How cruel, insenstive, and evil.

[VHG]

Not an answer to your question, but an example of how insensitive Hollywood can be.

Yesterday I saw on the side of a bus an advert for a new film with Sylvester Stallone called "Bullet to the head".

And the advert features Stallone holding out a gun ready to shot someone.

No wonder the USA has gun control problems

http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2013/01/29/should-stallone-new-movie-bullet-to-head-have-had-its-title-changed-post/

[SeaJayPea]

Doesn't it make you want to weep?

[sandyRoe]

Amendments to the American constitution aren't written on stone. There must have been an amendment which led to the prohibition of alcohol which was later unamended.

[emmie]

i don't believe one should have a need to bear arms, but it is their country, whilst we can have an opinion, it would carry no weight.
The hecklers should be ashamed of themselves all the same.

just as an aside, i watched just a few minutes of a British drama,
on last evening called Utopia, it has had some acclaim, which showed a man in a school gymnasium, he first gun down a male teacher, then went into a classroom and gunned down the children within, though off camera also shot a lone little boy who was sitting in another hall, please tell me why they were allowed to show it, it was done so quickly, which i would imagine happened at the sandy hook school.

[DJHawkes]

that's the trouble with some people who can legally own a gun in the USA, they don't have to pass any IQ test nor demonstrate any moral fibre

[DJHawkes]

em I was watching that and it did give a warning but the warning really did not emphasise the content. I also wasn;t impressed with the gun fights in ripper street last week

[emmie]

do those who carry legal weapons in UK have to prove their IQ, i wouldn't have thought so, they just need to give an explanation and need for the weapons, like farmers, or those who enjoy shooting as a sport to get a licence.

[DJHawkes]

yet the US law does not ask what they want it for other than they have the right to own the weapon, why would anyone need anything there other than a shotgun for sport or hunting or a small handgun for protection? It's the calibre of weapons that is ridiculous.

[Zeuhl]

/please tell me why they were allowed to show it/

em

first, please explain what law they were breaking

(btw drama has always portrayed violence - it's the actions of people in actuality that is truly disturbing)

[emmie]

because zeuhl, this was too life like, far too sensitive, and far too much, there doesn't have to be this level of violence on tv, it could have been implied, after all you don't see people getting their heads blown off in Morse, Midsomer murders, murder she wrote, or indeed in most dramas, there really is no need at all.

[emmie]

i didn't say they were breaking a law, but then again, stuff gets pass the censors no problem these days, that would have caused an uproar a few years ago.

[IggyB]

Let them bear as many guns as they think they need but make it a serious criminal offence to have any ammunition!

[Clanad]

Except.... that it didn't happen that way (acutally no "heckling" happened at all):

http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2013/01/29/neil_heslin_father_of_slain_6_year_old_jesse_lewis_heckled_by_gun_rights.html

[emmie]

that's all right then, no hecklers, however there is a lot of dead children, one was his, so i guess he has a point.

[sandyRoe]

Clanad, I believe you're an American. Will you look at my post of 14:22? Was there an amendment needed to introduce prohibition and was it later repealed?

[Zeuhl]

Sure thing em

of course 'Midsomer murders' is more black-comedy than heavy drama,
'murder she wrote' is a kiddy show (and a poor one at that)

True though that Morse addresses some darker, adult oriented issues without explicit violence

/there really is no need/

The question isn't necessarily what is needed - I can't think of any serious drama where the creative process starts with 'what do we need to show?'

it's more likely 'what do we want to express?'

The most recent King Lear I saw had a particularly graphic eye gouging scene - not unlike Utopia

[emmie]

i haven't watched the drama, as i sometime channel hop happened on this particular one, and was rather caught out by it, far too graphic, and the idea of children being gunned down was rather too much i'm afraid.

[society]

Why should there be a need to bear arms? I am all for gun control but I think it's very contradicting how the law is saying it is the rights of every American to bear arms yet they want to control how one does it. Why do people need guns anyway?

[Clanad]

Sandy... apologies, I didn't see your earlier post:

"The 18th Amendment to the United States Constitution was ratified by 36 states on January 16, 1919, and took affect one year later, beginning the era of prohibition."

"While it was illegal to manufacture or distribute “beer, wine, or other intoxicating malt or vinous liquors” it was not illegal to possess it for personal use. The provision allowed Americans to possess alcohol in their homes and partake with family and guests as long as it stayed inside and was not distributed, traded or even given away to anyone outside the home."

Further "...It was one of the first acts taken by the Roosevelt administration to encourage changes to (and subsequently repeal) the 18th Amendment. It was a two-step process; the first was the Beer Revenue Act. This legalized beer and wine with alcohol content up to 3.2% alc/vol in April of 1933. The second step was to pass the 21st Amendment to the Constitution. With the words "The eighteenth article of amendment to the Constitution of the United States is hereby repealed." Americans could once again drink legally and on December 5, 1933 the nationwide prohibition was over."

As an aside, the licensing of alcoholic beverage manufacture and sale is not left up to the indvidual States and several still have such "prohibition" on the books or at least counties within such States do...