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Proof The Bbc Has Lost Touch With Reality?

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youngmafbog | 12:56 Mon 11th Feb 2013 | News
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http://news.sky.com/story/1050594/bbc-journalists-to-strike-over-redundancies

Just what planet are these people on?

I guess they just think the public should be fleeced for even more, after all they consider themselves above others.

Persoanlly I would like to see an end to the BBC. It is outdated and politically biased and so should go.
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"The BBC is prepared to waste public money on needless redundancies rather than secure redeployment opportunities for those at risk.

"This demonstrates the significant failures of some managers to uphold key aspects of the redeployment agreement, let alone the spirit of the deal."

Clearly, spending licence fee on Redundancies is more wasteful than redeploying people. Anyone with any sense is agreeing to that, it seems that this dispute lies in the detail of implementation.

BBC outdated? Politically biased? Compared with what?

Murdoch's Pulp Media?

The majority of British people like the BBC overall and want to keep it - perhaps ymb is the one who is 'out of touch'?
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Actually, long term making people redundant does pay, providing it is done correctly with a good business plan in place. Redeployment is usually something to appease Unions, particularly in government funded organizations where they done really have to cut money - until now.

"Murdoch's Pulp Media" - You have a choice, you do not have to pay for it, the BBC you have to pay. As for questioning its non political bias, what planet do you live on? Planet lefty no doubt.

i haven't read the stories, but in terms of redundancy, i would guess it would depend on the type of workforce you had: coming and going workforce who would be quite cheap to make redundant or people that had been there for ages
The BBC and for the most part all the luvvie lefties that it employs, for some strange reason think they are gods gift to the country and are law unto themselves when it comes to money and think they have some god given right to it.

wouldnt mind if they actually earnt their money, its given by to them in the form of a punative tax.

I would also like to see it broken up and made to compete on the open market

watch what you want and only pay for what you want to watch not pay for something you dont want.

this is not the health service this isnt education, its hardly a necessity its nothing but TV and radio.

there now a multitude of choices and other option to watch programmes or listen to music without having to fund this dinosaur
The bbc is politically biased only in comparison with the rapid right wing that the norm in the media industry.

Due neutrality is written into their agreement - and with a Conservative government at the moment I'm sure that would be enforced if it were not adhered to.

Maybe they'd like to change the law to impose due impartiality on SKY and papers like the Mail and Express - so we didn't need the BBC?

No? thought not!
/this is not the health service this isnt education, its hardly a necessity its nothing but TV and radio/

So baz

you don't think you pay taxes towards

art galleries and museums you never visit?
parks and gardens you never visit?
monuments and public buildings you never visit?

Well wakey wakey - you do.

We recognise that they contribute to the quality of the Nation whether we choose to use them or not

Just like the BBC

It must be annoying for the whingeing Reactionaries among us that the BBC enjoys such popularity with the British people.

Where have you got left to reside? Planet Fox? PMSL
YMB - ""Murdoch's Pulp Media" - You have a choice, you do not have to pay for it, the BBC you have to pay."

When did this happen? last time I checked, watching TV, and therefore electing to buy a TV licence was entirely voluntary - have i missed something?
perhaps that is a way of saving money now they have their purpose built centre in Salford.
still this thing about voluntary, if i wish to continue to watch the TV, whether BBC or any other of the 100 waste of time mostly channels, then i have to have a TV licence. If i don't have one, the bully boys will come and batter down the door, or get letters threatening court action, or even prison. I guess i don't have to have a tv, could sit and stare at 4 walls, or sit on here for endless amusing chat, but strange to say there are one or two things that interest me, hence i need to have a licence. I do not buy one voluntarily though, it's an outmoded fee.
I wonder how many people who complain about the BBC licence fee studiously avoid watching it. And avoid its (free) website.
The licence fee may be an old-fashioned way of collecting money but faced with a choice between that and a plethora of expensive subscription or ad-ridden, unaccountable channels I know which I prefer.
And you've only got to cast a glance in the direction of certain media outlets TV or other, to see that - for all that it is not perfect - the BBC is pretty good to say the least.
It's also one of the most high-profile "exports" to the outside world. Arguably it gives Britain a better name and a higher profile than almost anything else. And yet for the sake of "having to pay" the licence fee some people would see the whole thing actually dismantled. Often the very people who claim to be such lovers of Britain.
Baffling :-)
sorry does it represent me or mine, or Britain for that matter, had no idea.
what free website?
/sorry does it represent me or mine/

Perhaps not

But it does present a Britain that is intelligent, cultured, creative, fair minded and highly professional
//Persoanlly I would like to see an end to the BBC.//

Are you mad? Do you actually realise what the BBC offers not only by way of news and entertainment, but in education too? It's cheap at the price - and we're damned lucky to have it. It's like nothing else in the world!!
is that why they often seem to have such left wing reportage
cultured perhaps, their arts programmes can be entertaining, doesn't it also report on the divisions in our society, on the sink estates and crime, on the drugs that pervade our society, all part and parcel of this great land. In pretty much the same way that many countries have cultured, creative and fair minded people, they too have their demons.
Hmmm:
A major organisation which (as even its supporters, like me, might well accept) has been rather too quick to spend money in the past finally recognises that it has to work within a finite budget and that redundancies are necessary.

To me, that sounds like 'getting to grips with reality', not 'losing touch with it'!
was moving to Salford really necessary?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-19176725
Why oh why can't be BBC be more like Murdoch when it comes to treating its journalists.

If you remember, Murdoch closed down the News of the World in disgrace and all the journalists were thrown on the scrap heap. Much more 21st Century behaviour.
The right wing press and other media have a vested interest in denigrating the BBC and its based on very, very little. The reason is quite simple they feel that if the BBC can be destroyed then they will benefit, in content, audience, finance and of course political balance.

The quality and variety of programming across the varied BBC platforms that criticism's are very hard to vouch as not biased.

Given the rabid ravings of the right seem to lurch further to extremism anyone not agreeing with them is labeled "lefty" when what we are talking about is balance.

The labeling as biased of course comes from the right wing press, and there followers, just join in with blind adherence, because as we can see their opinions come directly from this media, when they could infact, given the current technology, form their own opinions.

There are those who are actually on the left who would say the BBC has a right wing bias, this is based currently on the reporting, or none reporting, of the NHS "reforms".

Very little of the BBC's output is of a party political nature, so to say it has a bias either right or left is inaccurate, it is a national treasure, without which to set the standard, television, would be a sea of reality crap and "celebrity" inanities.

Be careful what you wish for, if goes, it won't come back.

/was moving to Salford really necessary? /

That was due more to pressure from the politicians than any appetite in the BBC for a big HQ north of Watford
// was moving to Salford really necessary? //

Then you post a link about hotels in Salford. How much did/does the BBC pay for hotel accommodation in London? Is Salford cheaper or dearer per room?

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