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Is this typical Guardian reporting on some university scare tactic report, all part of the reason that some are a little slow in addressing this growing problem, in case they are also branded of being members of Far-Right organisations such as the EDL or the BNP?
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http:// www.gua rdian.c o.uk/uk /2013/m ar/13/e nglish- defence -league -sex-gr ooming.
No need for sarcasm sandyRoe.
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No need for sarcasm sandyRoe.
Well that's a heck of a spin you put on that AOG!
The Kings College researchers are actually reporting on the scare tactics used by the EDL aren't they.
I am glad you recognise that the EDL are a far right organisation though.
The very fact you describe this as a 'growing problem' is interesting as this is exactly what the EDL are trying to get people to think according to this report.
It's quite easy for a small group of people to talk up a small event these days into a big noise in the media and the internet.
So let me ask you why you say it's a growing problem - as opposed to a problem that been talked aboiut a lot?
The Kings College researchers are actually reporting on the scare tactics used by the EDL aren't they.
I am glad you recognise that the EDL are a far right organisation though.
The very fact you describe this as a 'growing problem' is interesting as this is exactly what the EDL are trying to get people to think according to this report.
It's quite easy for a small group of people to talk up a small event these days into a big noise in the media and the internet.
So let me ask you why you say it's a growing problem - as opposed to a problem that been talked aboiut a lot?
jake-the-peg
/// It's quite easy for a small group of people to talk up a small event these days into a big noise in the media and the internet. ///
/// So let me ask you why you say it's a growing problem - as opposed to a problem that been talked aboiut a lot? ///
A small event????????????????? where have you been?
After a quick google search, this is only a small selection of the problem , there are many more, in fact only last week another two were jailed.
http:// www.tel egraph. co.uk/n ews/ukn ews/cri me/9569 754/Gro oming-t rial-sp arked-n ational -debate .html
http:// standpo intmag. co.uk/n ode/357 6/full
http:// cambria ndissen ters.bl ogspot. co.uk/2 013/01/ asian-c hild-se x-gangs -oxford -joins. html
http:// www.dai lymail. co.uk/n ews/art icle-20 03499/A sian-ga ng-ran- year-ch ild-pro stituti on-ring -girls- young-1 3.html
/// It's quite easy for a small group of people to talk up a small event these days into a big noise in the media and the internet. ///
/// So let me ask you why you say it's a growing problem - as opposed to a problem that been talked aboiut a lot? ///
A small event????????????????? where have you been?
After a quick google search, this is only a small selection of the problem , there are many more, in fact only last week another two were jailed.
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If you want to denegrate an eintire fiath / culture / nation / organisation etc. it is really easy to do.
Simply pick out the extreme behaviour of apparent members of the faith / culture etc, and use it to foster the idea that this is the behaviour of all such individuals.
If you extrapolate that argument, you come up with the EDL stance - some Muslims groom young girls for sex - therefore all Muslim men are sexual predators and they should be exported, preferable after castration.
It is standard scare tactics, it works on uneducated ill-informed fearful minds, and it is fundamentally wrong.
If the EDl want a target for religious evil - why don't they look a little closer to home - every Catholic priest is a child-abusing sodmite? Why? because a minority are convicted as such, so it must be all of them.
But taking a stance against native white religion may not prove quite such an easy target, even though it is every bit as valid, if hate-stirring is what gets you through the day.
Self-rigteousness is a very very dangerous concept, and it's a cornerstone of the EDL.
Simply pick out the extreme behaviour of apparent members of the faith / culture etc, and use it to foster the idea that this is the behaviour of all such individuals.
If you extrapolate that argument, you come up with the EDL stance - some Muslims groom young girls for sex - therefore all Muslim men are sexual predators and they should be exported, preferable after castration.
It is standard scare tactics, it works on uneducated ill-informed fearful minds, and it is fundamentally wrong.
If the EDl want a target for religious evil - why don't they look a little closer to home - every Catholic priest is a child-abusing sodmite? Why? because a minority are convicted as such, so it must be all of them.
But taking a stance against native white religion may not prove quite such an easy target, even though it is every bit as valid, if hate-stirring is what gets you through the day.
Self-rigteousness is a very very dangerous concept, and it's a cornerstone of the EDL.
jake-the-peg
/// I am glad you recognise that the EDL are a far right organisation
though. ///
If that is the label they must endure for protesting about issues that some wish to sweep under the carpet, then so be it.
Is it any different to being called a racist, a homophobic or sexist, if one dares to criticise in any way an ethnic minority, an homosexual, or a person of the opposite sex and sometimes the bigot label is also often used, all in the attempt to frighten one into silent submission.
/// I am glad you recognise that the EDL are a far right organisation
though. ///
If that is the label they must endure for protesting about issues that some wish to sweep under the carpet, then so be it.
Is it any different to being called a racist, a homophobic or sexist, if one dares to criticise in any way an ethnic minority, an homosexual, or a person of the opposite sex and sometimes the bigot label is also often used, all in the attempt to frighten one into silent submission.
Andy-Hughes
/// If you extrapolate that argument, you come up with the EDL stance - some Muslims groom young girls for sex - therefore all Muslim men are sexual predators and they should be exported, preferable after castration. ///
You contradict your argument Andy:
The EDL stance being 'SOME' Muslims groom young girls for sex
Therefore not' 'ALL' Muslim men are sexual predators.
And where does that statement 'they should be exported, preferable after castration' come from, except in Andy's mind?
Scare tactics indeed.
/// If you extrapolate that argument, you come up with the EDL stance - some Muslims groom young girls for sex - therefore all Muslim men are sexual predators and they should be exported, preferable after castration. ///
You contradict your argument Andy:
The EDL stance being 'SOME' Muslims groom young girls for sex
Therefore not' 'ALL' Muslim men are sexual predators.
And where does that statement 'they should be exported, preferable after castration' come from, except in Andy's mind?
Scare tactics indeed.
Right - so what you've done is what you always do
You cherry pick cases of the particular racial group you're trying to denegrate and ignore other cases where they don't meet your racial profile.
how about this lot?
http:// news.bb c.co.uk /1/hi/u k/11678 79.stm
or this
http:// www.gua rdian.c o.uk/uk /2013/f eb/06/m en-arre sted-to m-watso n-paedo phile-c laim
or this
http:// www.dai lymail. co.uk/n ews/art icle-22 74316/D etectiv es-inve stigati ng-VIP- paedoph ile-rin g-1980s -guest- house-m ake-arr ests.ht ml
don't remember you calling these out
http:// www.bbc .co.uk/ news/uk -englan d-21550 541
or this
http:// www.nor thampto nchron. co.uk/n ews/loc al/chil d-abuse -victim s-of-pa edophil e-ring- that-in cluded- ex-scou t-leade r-urged -to-com e-forwa rd-1-48 23230
These don't sound very muslim either
http:// www.lep .co.uk/ news/re gional/ three-j ailed-o ver-pae dophile -ring-1 -543951 7
Damn not a muslim either
http:// www.thi sishull andeast riding. co.uk/H ull-man -core-g lobal-p aedophi le-ring -family /story- 1792868 8-detai l/story .html#a xzz2NR0 IbE9u
So what's the conculsion of this little lot?
Would you agree we have a growing problem of white paedaphiles?
Are you going to make racial assumptions about the tendency of all these white paedaphiles?
No? thought not!
You cherry pick cases of the particular racial group you're trying to denegrate and ignore other cases where they don't meet your racial profile.
how about this lot?
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or this
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or this
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don't remember you calling these out
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or this
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These don't sound very muslim either
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Damn not a muslim either
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So what's the conculsion of this little lot?
Would you agree we have a growing problem of white paedaphiles?
Are you going to make racial assumptions about the tendency of all these white paedaphiles?
No? thought not!
Regarding the "native white religion" by that I presume you falsely mean the Roman Catholic religion (seeing that you referred to their priests), there are plenty of ABers who are prepared to label them all 'child-abusing sodomites' how is that any difference from what you and others are accusing the EDL of?