Abu Qatada - What Now

[Ric.ror]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-21955844

[anotheoldgit]

jake-the-peg

//If we consider anybody to be a national security threat we should have the right to get them out of our country and keep them out. //

*** Good idea Baz ***

*** Like the Americans did with Osama bin Laden ***

Why did the Americans get rid of Osama bin Laden out of their country?

[jake-the-peg]

Seriously

The existing evidence against this man seems very very slight - yet continuous home secretaries seem to believe he's a significant risk

I presume from this that they have additional evidence that they are not releasing.

If that is the case the Justice and security bill coming for its third reading will allow for him to be tried behind closed doors without releasing the evidence.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Justice_and_Security_Bill_2012-13

I'd assume the plan is now (or should be) to keep him in the country and under observation until this bill passes and he can be tried in such circumstances.

Of course that's not a plan that could be announced in public as it might compromise the bill or the trial

[in a mo]

A Russian KGB Agent, A syringe with their poison of choice, Problem solved, Millions of pounds saved , or we keep trying the Good Old English way spend Millions of POUNDS forever.

[jake-the-peg]

AOG

I think you're missing the point there

Osama Bin Laden was never in the US despite this his ability to harm them from abroad was so great they spent years searching for him abroad

The idea that you can kick a dangerous person out of the country and they can't harm you from abroad is beyond naiave!

[jake-the-peg]

BTW I'm amazed about the number of people on here willing to advocate murdering somebody based on whatthey've read in newspapers.

Hey Ed - is advocating muder on a public website a criminal offence do you think?

These guys were all prosecuted for postings on Facebook

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-14488055

[emmie]

they are keeping him in prison for now, and looking at the possibility that he broke his bail agreement by posting inflammatory literature on line...

[Ric.ror]

Who was it that suggested we try him here - seems like a very good idea to me

[DangerUXD]

perhaps one of our many terrorist apologists can put him up for a bit!

[anotheoldgit]

jake-the-peg

/// I think you're missing the point there ///

No I don't think so, it was just you making confusing statements.

If you still cannot see it, let me explain.

You answered Baz when he stated;

"If we consider anybody to be a national security threat we should have the right to get them out of our country and keep them out."

by replying "Like the Americans did with Osama bin Laden?"

[emmie]

personally i would release him into the community, not tagged but certainly kept an eye on, that way he will contact his followers and make a mistake, if he hasn't done so already, firm evidence of any wrong doing in this country and away he goes back to jail. You can't deport someone just because you feel like it. If he hasn't actually done anything wrong, at least that the public are aware of, what can the government do..
i heard earlier that the matter is still open and that they are not giving up on getting him deported, well good luck with that, as he has been here for 20 years.

[TWR]

Are you serious Em? to leave an Idiot like this trash & his family in the UK, a piece of scum that stands in a street that has kept him/ housed him & his tribe as he stands in a street preaching hatred, what planet are you on?

[Zeuhl]

steady on twr

that's probably what they said about jesus when he'd been lambasting the moneylenders

[emmie]

planet earth, unlike some of you, you can't deport him currently, and certainly not to Jordan, which in fact is the only place that wants him.
I don't want him or his tribe here either, but until he has done something wrong, a tangible piece of evidence that sticks out like a sore thumb, then he stays here.

[TWR]

Em, the problem with this current or past Gov they have no B@lls, fck the H.R. SOD the EU rules, get him & his tribe on a private flight out of the UK, End of.

[FredPuli43]

If he stands on a street preaching hatred , he can be jailed for that.Problem part-solved.

The mistake was to allow him to enter and reside here in the first place. The Home Secretary may refuse entry to anyone whose presence in the UK would not be in the public interest; not difficult to see that Abu Qatada's presence would not be and has not been. Having allowed him asylum because he couldn't return to Jordan, it's not all that surprising that finds an excuse not to be deported to Jordan to face trial.

Best course of action? Let him free and then nail him for some offence which is indictable. Bound to commit one. Then jail him.

[TWR]

that's probably what they said about Jesus when he'd been lambasting the moneylenders, Jesus was not in the middle of the street in his pyjamas preaching hatred to a bush of broccoli followers / scroungers that the Country adapted & kept Zeuhl.

[grumpy01]

If you all think AQ is bad wait until the borders open further for EU nationals to stream in.

[TWR]

Where & why did this pratt loose his arm / eye Fred? the trouble was, he did not do a proper job.

[Baldric]

///Jesus was not in the middle of the street in his pyjamas///

and you know this how?

[Mick-Talbot]

Well that's told you Zeuhl