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And if such drugs are classed as illegal how can they suddenly become legal in only certain locations such as Brighton, which is already called the Gay centre of Britain?
And if such drugs are classed as illegal how can they suddenly become legal in only certain locations such as Brighton, which is already called the Gay centre of Britain?
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You must admit that AOG gets attacked on a daily basis regardless of what he posts. If he said it was Thursday,
16:49 Thu 18th Apr 2013
LazyGun
While it sounds good on paper it would be a wrong path to take, I think that if we were to make drugs legal, it would be opening a Pandora's box, do you really want to see our youngsters mainly hooked on drugs, which they would be make no mistake?
As regards all the money it would save, it is like saying make all crime legal, just think how much money that would save, you could close down all the prisons for starters.
While it sounds good on paper it would be a wrong path to take, I think that if we were to make drugs legal, it would be opening a Pandora's box, do you really want to see our youngsters mainly hooked on drugs, which they would be make no mistake?
As regards all the money it would save, it is like saying make all crime legal, just think how much money that would save, you could close down all the prisons for starters.
Caroline Lucas, the MP for Brighton (who instigated the commission a year ago) is one of the few Independent MPs in Parliament, and so is more able to put these proposals forwards for consideration without having to concern herself with sticking to the 'Party Line'.
I'm in two minds about this proposal......
I'm in two minds about this proposal......
@MM I would suggest that Jim has the right of it - you need to trial these innovations, and truly test what the outcomes are, good and/or bad, before you think about implementing them nationwide, for example.
@Baldric - I would certainly advocate legalising parts of the drug trade, so that the taxpayer can reap the benefits of the tax on profits, sales tax etc and the reduction in the costs of policing and crime, and also with a reduction in costs to the health and social services sector.
@Baldric - I would certainly advocate legalising parts of the drug trade, so that the taxpayer can reap the benefits of the tax on profits, sales tax etc and the reduction in the costs of policing and crime, and also with a reduction in costs to the health and social services sector.
Centres like that can only be a good thing.
Drug use is not going to go away.
The cost of running centres like that is going to be a lot less than the cost of treating people who become ill through unsafe drug use.
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Drug use is not going to go away.
The cost of running centres like that is going to be a lot less than the cost of treating people who become ill through unsafe drug use.
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Jim, yeah ok, I get that. I just think that although I'm confident the Brighton centre will give evidence that these things work, there will be a neighbouring town or city that suffers as a consequence.
I suppose it's better than doing nothing, or what we're currently doing. Whilst rehabilitation centres may work for a small handful or users, they're not a solution at fixing the problem and are quite difficult for users to access.
It's such a long-winded process, that many give up before they even get there.
I suppose it's better than doing nothing, or what we're currently doing. Whilst rehabilitation centres may work for a small handful or users, they're not a solution at fixing the problem and are quite difficult for users to access.
It's such a long-winded process, that many give up before they even get there.
I do not think we should finance these centers, I have never used, never will, never wanted to use drugs of this kind, I think putting these people to work to occupy their minds would be a better way to help them, Brighton may have a lot of places like the rest of the UK that needs cleaning up, can they not be encouraged to this type of work?
@AoG - But you, as with many of those who dislike the idea of greater liberalisation or even legalisation of the drug trade, have a view that it is better to keep with the existing system of prohibition because if we did not most of the population would become, virtually overnight, desperate addicts seeking there next fix.
Hypothetically speaking, were all drugs to be legalised tomorrow,and were subject to the same laws and rules governing the production, sale and use of say cigarettes and alcohol - would you try them? would you become addicted? If not, why not? And if you would not, why do you imagine that everyone else would?
I take the view that those people who would be prone or willing to take drugs probably do it now - those that do not take drugs now never will, regardless of whether you legalise them or not.
What evidence do you have that legalising drugs would result in a huge number of new users?
Hypothetically speaking, were all drugs to be legalised tomorrow,and were subject to the same laws and rules governing the production, sale and use of say cigarettes and alcohol - would you try them? would you become addicted? If not, why not? And if you would not, why do you imagine that everyone else would?
I take the view that those people who would be prone or willing to take drugs probably do it now - those that do not take drugs now never will, regardless of whether you legalise them or not.
What evidence do you have that legalising drugs would result in a huge number of new users?
I thought this Daily Mail reader's comment most apt.
/// Strange that they consider dry, warm safe rooms for illegal drug use yet if you are a Legal smoker paying a Huge amount of Tax into the country you cannot sit in a dry, warm separate room in a Pub or Club to alleviate the constant Loneliness and Isolation the smoking ban has created and help save the Pub and Club Industry. ///
And if, In 2000, 67 residents died a drug-related death, with the figure now standing at around 20.
Why are these rooms now more necessary than they were in the year 2000?
/// Strange that they consider dry, warm safe rooms for illegal drug use yet if you are a Legal smoker paying a Huge amount of Tax into the country you cannot sit in a dry, warm separate room in a Pub or Club to alleviate the constant Loneliness and Isolation the smoking ban has created and help save the Pub and Club Industry. ///
And if, In 2000, 67 residents died a drug-related death, with the figure now standing at around 20.
Why are these rooms now more necessary than they were in the year 2000?
LazyGun
/// would you try them? would you become addicted? If not, why not? And if you would not, why do you imagine that everyone else would? ///
No I would not, no more than I would take up shop lifting if they made that legal also.
But surely you are not naive enough to believe that the young would not be persuaded to experiment in drug taking, just as they now do with smoking, alcohol abuse and soft drugs?
/// would you try them? would you become addicted? If not, why not? And if you would not, why do you imagine that everyone else would? ///
No I would not, no more than I would take up shop lifting if they made that legal also.
But surely you are not naive enough to believe that the young would not be persuaded to experiment in drug taking, just as they now do with smoking, alcohol abuse and soft drugs?
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