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And if such drugs are classed as illegal how can they suddenly become legal in only certain locations such as Brighton, which is already called the Gay centre of Britain?
And if such drugs are classed as illegal how can they suddenly become legal in only certain locations such as Brighton, which is already called the Gay centre of Britain?
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You must admit that AOG gets attacked on a daily basis regardless of what he posts. If he said it was Thursday,
16:49 Thu 18th Apr 2013
dollie65
/// it did happen its just that theres more media coverage now so its out in the open nothings changed...and now your asking how the hell do i know well its cause im an old git as well..///
65? you are only a slip of a girl.
And how many more times do I hear this, "all of today's problems are no different from today's it just because there is more coverage".
Even in my day, we had the printing press the radio, the telephone, the cinema news reels, and even Television for part.
I am sure if some of today's happenings had had happened in the past they would surely have been headline news not tucked away in small print or not even bothered published as scores are today.
For a certainty those who had committed murder would have been highlighted because of the day of their hanging, everyone would remember that, how many murderers names are remembered the day after their sentence now days? I mean Dr Crippin only murdered his wife, but he has gone down in history, but that sort of crime happens almost on a daily basis these days.
/// it did happen its just that theres more media coverage now so its out in the open nothings changed...and now your asking how the hell do i know well its cause im an old git as well..///
65? you are only a slip of a girl.
And how many more times do I hear this, "all of today's problems are no different from today's it just because there is more coverage".
Even in my day, we had the printing press the radio, the telephone, the cinema news reels, and even Television for part.
I am sure if some of today's happenings had had happened in the past they would surely have been headline news not tucked away in small print or not even bothered published as scores are today.
For a certainty those who had committed murder would have been highlighted because of the day of their hanging, everyone would remember that, how many murderers names are remembered the day after their sentence now days? I mean Dr Crippin only murdered his wife, but he has gone down in history, but that sort of crime happens almost on a daily basis these days.
sp1814
/// Very long thread...this may have been answered before, but why is there a mention of Brighton being Britain's gay centre in the question??? ///
/// I don't see the link. ///
Perhaps there is no link I was just pointing out that Brighton was the Gay Centre Of Britain, now they want to choose Brighton as the first place in Britain to be able to buy and take drugs legally.
Why Brighton what's so special about Brighton, perhaps they are trying to turn it into the San Francisco of Britain, who knows?
/// Very long thread...this may have been answered before, but why is there a mention of Brighton being Britain's gay centre in the question??? ///
/// I don't see the link. ///
Perhaps there is no link I was just pointing out that Brighton was the Gay Centre Of Britain, now they want to choose Brighton as the first place in Britain to be able to buy and take drugs legally.
Why Brighton what's so special about Brighton, perhaps they are trying to turn it into the San Francisco of Britain, who knows?
Jackthehat said...
/Caroline Lucas, the MP for Brighton (who instigated the commission a year ago) is one of the few Independent MPs in Parliament, and so is more able to put these proposals forwards for consideration without having to concern herself with sticking to the 'Party Line'.
I'm in two minds about this proposal...... /
/Caroline Lucas, the MP for Brighton (who instigated the commission a year ago) is one of the few Independent MPs in Parliament, and so is more able to put these proposals forwards for consideration without having to concern herself with sticking to the 'Party Line'.
I'm in two minds about this proposal...... /
Kromovaracun
/// Has it ever occurred to you that these things are not strictly neutral arbiters of information? That they have agendas? That they are capable of influencing one's perception of the world by choosing what they show you? ///
Ah, I see now they make all these stories up, well would you believe it here was me thinking that these are all fabrications, who can anyone trust these days?
But what I now must wonder is where do you all get all your information from, is there something I can't see that others can, when they bury their heads under the sand?
/// Has it ever occurred to you that these things are not strictly neutral arbiters of information? That they have agendas? That they are capable of influencing one's perception of the world by choosing what they show you? ///
Ah, I see now they make all these stories up, well would you believe it here was me thinking that these are all fabrications, who can anyone trust these days?
But what I now must wonder is where do you all get all your information from, is there something I can't see that others can, when they bury their heads under the sand?
They chose Brighton because it has one of the highest numbers of drug related deaths. I'm sure they considered the many other cities, but you're right Aog, it probably did have something to do with Brighton being the gap capital of Britain, and all those queers spreading their dirty diseases.
On another note, Brighton the new San Francisco? Haha. I've been to San Fran and, albeit very briefly, Brighton too - which was a complete dump!
On another note, Brighton the new San Francisco? Haha. I've been to San Fran and, albeit very briefly, Brighton too - which was a complete dump!
It's called selection bias. No-one is denying that these events happen. But if you report only the dross then you paint a black picture of the world. Again and again I have argued that things weren't nearly so rosy as you make out back in the 30s to 50s, that the old people of that generation had the same fears you do now, and so on generations back. It's not that nothing changes. It's just that people always have the same fears.
“I think morals are getting much worse... There were no such girls in my time as there are now. When I was four or five and twenty my mother would have knocked me down if I had spoken improperly to her." - Charlotte Kirkman, 1843.
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“I think morals are getting much worse... There were no such girls in my time as there are now. When I was four or five and twenty my mother would have knocked me down if I had spoken improperly to her." - Charlotte Kirkman, 1843.
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ummmm
/// I don't think he'd agree with you that things were better in 'his day'. I think he found the poverty quite hard. ///
Stop trying to twist things around, you know damn well that poverty isn't under discussion here.
But if you want to introduce it, yes there was some real poverty back then, not just classed as such because one cannot afford the latest trainers, a yearly overseas holiday, or the latest wide-screen TV etc, etc, no real poverty, but believe me when I see the actions of today's so called under privileged society, those back then could show them how to conduct a decent life for themselves and others, even if they didn't have two pennies to rub together.
/// I don't think he'd agree with you that things were better in 'his day'. I think he found the poverty quite hard. ///
Stop trying to twist things around, you know damn well that poverty isn't under discussion here.
But if you want to introduce it, yes there was some real poverty back then, not just classed as such because one cannot afford the latest trainers, a yearly overseas holiday, or the latest wide-screen TV etc, etc, no real poverty, but believe me when I see the actions of today's so called under privileged society, those back then could show them how to conduct a decent life for themselves and others, even if they didn't have two pennies to rub together.
MadMen
/// They chose Brighton because it has one of the highest numbers of drug related deaths ///
It 'ONCE HAD' one of the highest numbers of drug related deaths.
I will repeat what I said earlier
In 2000, 67 residents died a drug-related death, with the figure now standing at around 20.
Why are these rooms now more necessary than they were in the year 2000?
/// They chose Brighton because it has one of the highest numbers of drug related deaths ///
It 'ONCE HAD' one of the highest numbers of drug related deaths.
I will repeat what I said earlier
In 2000, 67 residents died a drug-related death, with the figure now standing at around 20.
Why are these rooms now more necessary than they were in the year 2000?
But aog, you're just picking out part of my comment. If you included the other part, which said I'm sure they looked into the other cities too, it would have made perfect sense.
With regards to why these centres are now more necessary, I should imagine it's down to the simple fact that this is a fairly new 'experiment' and wasn't around 1 years ago - though please correct me if I'm wrong.
With regards to why these centres are now more necessary, I should imagine it's down to the simple fact that this is a fairly new 'experiment' and wasn't around 1 years ago - though please correct me if I'm wrong.
@AoG. You fail to recognise the possibility and the occurrence of selection bias. You fail to address Jims point that your wails that the modern generation are so very much worse than your own as being a cry since - Well I don't know exactly, but probably since stoneage times - And whilst poverty might have been more grindingly harsh in previous generations - and I accept that there were probably more people in greater poverty, certainly in the developed world - that is not something we should get all nostalgically gooey over - nor does it mean that we should simply ignore the poverty of today, because in your eyes it simply is not grim enough.
What a mindset you have... that gloats over the fact that poverty today was "not as bad as in my day".
In case you have not realised it, that is kind of the point of progress and civilisation and society - to gradually improve the lot of mankind, generation after generation. The fact that poverty might not be quite so deep or quite so widespread is a cause for celebration, not something to regret...
And you still evade the point. Given that the existing system of prohibition is not working, we should not just refuse point blank to try out alternatives.
As to why it is Brighton - No idea, but probably because those wishing to implement such a system will have links there, with the police and health and social services. Does it matter where it is? It is more important to get some data from the trial and see if it really does help things...
What a mindset you have... that gloats over the fact that poverty today was "not as bad as in my day".
In case you have not realised it, that is kind of the point of progress and civilisation and society - to gradually improve the lot of mankind, generation after generation. The fact that poverty might not be quite so deep or quite so widespread is a cause for celebration, not something to regret...
And you still evade the point. Given that the existing system of prohibition is not working, we should not just refuse point blank to try out alternatives.
As to why it is Brighton - No idea, but probably because those wishing to implement such a system will have links there, with the police and health and social services. Does it matter where it is? It is more important to get some data from the trial and see if it really does help things...
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