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Is This The Way To Discourage Rebookings At Hmhcs?
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Justice Secretary Chris Grayling said: "I want the arrival in prison for the first time to be an experience that is not one they'd want to repeat."
Justice Secretary Chris Grayling said: "I want the arrival in prison for the first time to be an experience that is not one they'd want to repeat."
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As is so often the case, this is an exercise in headline-grabbing rather than in actually creating a prison system that encourages inmates not to return.
With the exception of institutionalised long-term inmates who simply cannot cope with life outside the prison system, it is hard to imagine any inmate has a return visit uppermost in his or her mind when they return to civilian life.
The curtailment of freedom is the essence of the punishment, and the so-called 'luxuries' that everyone with no experience of prison gets so get up about are not really luxuries at all.
If the government, and right-wing commentators seriously imagine that depriving inmates of television - and therefore giving them hours upon hours to contemplate their situation (remember a lot of them lack the basic literacy skills for alternative distractions like reading) is going to improve the attitudes of the incarcerated, then that shows naivity at a breath-taking level.
A little escapism to prevent obsessive consideration of home and damily life carrying on without the individual serving a sentence cannot be seen as unreasonable - part from which, television provides a valuable link to the outside world in terms of news and cultural input.
Where do we draw the line? let's not give them clothes, or bedding, or baths and toilets - that should reap a host of right-wing votes at election time.
But will it address fundamental issues about education and social interation, and the chance of pointing out some alternative life choices that don't involve crime and punishment? Unlikely.
Oh, and anyone who starts a reply to this post with "So you think ..." will, as previously advised, be receiving a sharp rebuke by return!
With the exception of institutionalised long-term inmates who simply cannot cope with life outside the prison system, it is hard to imagine any inmate has a return visit uppermost in his or her mind when they return to civilian life.
The curtailment of freedom is the essence of the punishment, and the so-called 'luxuries' that everyone with no experience of prison gets so get up about are not really luxuries at all.
If the government, and right-wing commentators seriously imagine that depriving inmates of television - and therefore giving them hours upon hours to contemplate their situation (remember a lot of them lack the basic literacy skills for alternative distractions like reading) is going to improve the attitudes of the incarcerated, then that shows naivity at a breath-taking level.
A little escapism to prevent obsessive consideration of home and damily life carrying on without the individual serving a sentence cannot be seen as unreasonable - part from which, television provides a valuable link to the outside world in terms of news and cultural input.
Where do we draw the line? let's not give them clothes, or bedding, or baths and toilets - that should reap a host of right-wing votes at election time.
But will it address fundamental issues about education and social interation, and the chance of pointing out some alternative life choices that don't involve crime and punishment? Unlikely.
Oh, and anyone who starts a reply to this post with "So you think ..." will, as previously advised, be receiving a sharp rebuke by return!
A lot in that BBC report is just plain wrong. I have worked in a prison and have seen the reality.
Prison uniform is standard in the vast majority of jails just for a start.
Chris Grayling is also talking total rubbish, how can you 'repeat' a first time arrival ?
This if it goes ahead is going to cause far more problems than it cures.
The huge problem is that the prisons are so overcrowded that very few prisoners will even get a chance to partake in 'work or training' .
I can see it already, prisoners who can not be offered a job or training to earn the privileges will be suing the Prison Service for the loss and getting £1,000s compensation. The prison lawyers will be rubbing their hands with glee at this . Expect a U turn in a few weeks time.
Prison uniform is standard in the vast majority of jails just for a start.
Chris Grayling is also talking total rubbish, how can you 'repeat' a first time arrival ?
This if it goes ahead is going to cause far more problems than it cures.
The huge problem is that the prisons are so overcrowded that very few prisoners will even get a chance to partake in 'work or training' .
I can see it already, prisoners who can not be offered a job or training to earn the privileges will be suing the Prison Service for the loss and getting £1,000s compensation. The prison lawyers will be rubbing their hands with glee at this . Expect a U turn in a few weeks time.
I'm wondering how much influence an unpleasant prison would be once you've got over the initial shock and settled in to the routine. I suspect one would need to expect to be caught again for it to be a large deterrent.
And there is a risk that if one has to suck up to the Governor to get what used to be considered basic leisure time stuff then might the thought be that there's no point in just keeping one's nose clean, may as well see what the bad guys are into ? Could well polarise and lead to less rehabilitation.
I think it's a bit of a risk, but I guess we'll see what the result has been once the experiment has been going a while.
And there is a risk that if one has to suck up to the Governor to get what used to be considered basic leisure time stuff then might the thought be that there's no point in just keeping one's nose clean, may as well see what the bad guys are into ? Could well polarise and lead to less rehabilitation.
I think it's a bit of a risk, but I guess we'll see what the result has been once the experiment has been going a while.
TTG. Are you new to the site?
Any and every suggestion put forward to cut crime, improve education, cut the benefit bill etc,etc is met with a storm of protest,derision & scorn from the same old faces on here.
After a while you'll come to know who they are and the type of drivel they spout. Again & again & again, ad infinitum. ;)
Any and every suggestion put forward to cut crime, improve education, cut the benefit bill etc,etc is met with a storm of protest,derision & scorn from the same old faces on here.
After a while you'll come to know who they are and the type of drivel they spout. Again & again & again, ad infinitum. ;)
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