Integration Doesn't Seem To Be Working

[Gran67]

"Census figures show white Britons are leaving areas where they are minority"
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2320002/How-rise-white-flight-creating-segregated-UK-Study-reveals-white-Britons-retreating-areas-dominated-ethnic-minorities.html

Would you leave your area if you found yourself in the minority?

[FredPuli43]

"Birds of a feather flock together". Immigrants head for the cheapest, poorest,areas of our cities. When Hampstead and Chelsea are full of black and brown faces we should worry that whites are being driven out because it would mean that they could afford several million for a house or flat and we couldn't. As it happens, the last three flats I owned in Chelsea and Fulham were in blocks of flats that were, or became, predominantly owned by immigrants. What's more I sold each of them to immigrants, and, by gad, they were brown, Muslim, ones as well! I don't think they moved from some flat in Hackney though, given the prices they paid :)

It is too simple to say that whites are being driven out by immigrants because these people are immigrants; the reasons are more complex and essentially economic, for betterment.

As for streets not being safe; in my lifetime, poor, white areas of our cities have had streets where it was not safe to walk unless you were keen on violence and didn't appear to have anything worth stealing.

[tonyav]

LOL, try walking through Sparkbrook or Handsworth and quite a few other places in Brum.

[Brenden]

sp, Take a trip down Brick Lane in Bethnal Green now, oh sorry, it is now called Bangaland.

[sp1814]

em10

47 years of experience living in a very multicultural area tells me that people who say parts of London are 'no go areas for whites' is nonsense.

Which areas?

[sp1814]

Brenden

And?

I used to go up there almost every Friday night after work. I used to work in Aldgate, and after a few beers, we'd always got for a curry up Brick Lane.

Plenty of white people in the area.

So what's your point?

[jno]

by the time we reach the next Census in 2021 I'll be surprised if there is an English family left in London.

Paranoid hysteria, moi??

[mushroom25]

Tony, there were parts of Aston where it wouldn't have been safe for a casual traveller - and yet......
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/film/9918593/One-Mile-Away-Birmingham-gangs-give-peace-a-chance.html

[emmie]

further discourse on this is useless, sorry i already said that some areas i don't feel comfortable in, places i never worried about before

Brenden, the Bangladeshi community leaders petitioned to change the name of Spitalfields to Banglatown, which strangely enough didn't go down well with some in the community.

[Sqad]

"No go areas" may be a little OTT.

But ...statistics show that white Britains are leaving the capital, London and should this continue at the same rate, will soon be in the minority.

Now, I am not a statistics man as you all well know, but this census is surely thought provoking.

[emmie]

it's an ancient name and i am glad they were unsuccessful.

[tonyav]

Mmmmmm, interesting mushroom, I still wouldn't want to walk around in that area though well on a none match day anyway.

[FredPuli43]

Funnily enough, I have walked through supposedly dangerous areas and streets without any trouble. It could be that, in three piece suit and carrying a briefcase, even sometimes at night, the locals thought that I must be from the Council, the immigration department, or Government ! Or it may be the confident relaxed air of someone who dealt with the villains. Or it may be that risk is overstated. Who knows?

[boxtops]

Nope, I lived in Birmingham for 17 years, at the time when the Ugandan Asians were coming to the UK, and I was there during the Handsworth Riots. I have no problem with multiculturalism. Where I live now, in a small town in a street of 40 houses, we have Poles, Czechs, Scots, Chinese, Bengalis. It's interesting.

[emmie]

sqad

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/census-reveals-white-britons-as-minority-in-capital-for-first-time-8405998.html

[Sqad]

em..;-) OK so it is already here.

[emmie]

yes.

[boxtops]

..but with the boot on the other foot, there are some parts of the world now with an ex-pat community of British people - how do the indigenous population in those countries feel about that? My friend has moved to a small residential estate in southern Spain where everyone is British - I would hate that, what's the point of moving if you are not mixing with local culture?

[emmie]

boxy, i have always thought that, i suspect that is also changing though. I visited some friends who lived in Spain many years ago, their little ex pat community where some mixed and some didn't, i would have thought it would be preferable to be part of the Spanish community as opposed to the other way around.
Learn the lingo and get on, but i don't see a lot of that now here, that's the problem, and well reasoned by New Judge on another thread.

[Sqad]

boxy one emigrates for different reasons, but exPats to Spain is not necesarrily to share in their culture main reason being......climate....sun.....the weather.

But you are correct, many exPats, particularly the British seem to segregate and keep themselves to themselves...Coach and Horses....Yorkshire pudding...etc.

That is fine with me and they are enjoying their retirement the way that they choose.

Mr&Mrs sqad choose to integrate with the locals....that is our choice.

[Sqad]

sorry em...your post wasn't there.....