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Britain's Speaker Of The House Belittles British Workers.
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http:// www.dai lymail. co.uk/n ews/art icle-23 36050/M igrants -harder -worker s-Brito ns-Spea ker-Joh n-Berco w-says- arrival -Easter n-Europ eans-be nefited -Britai n.html
Was the Speaker of the House of Commons right to criticise British workers on a visit to a foreign parliament.
Was the Speaker of the House of Commons right to criticise British workers on a visit to a foreign parliament.
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For more on marking an answer as the "Best Answer", please visit our FAQ.No he was not right - not because he is not entitled to hold that opinion, but because as Speaker he has to be seen to be neautral, and making an obviously personal statement about an issue as contentious as immigration is not within his remit.
The man is a buffoon, with a buffoonish wife.
He should be censured for his lack of awareness of the basic tennets of his position.
The man is a buffoon, with a buffoonish wife.
He should be censured for his lack of awareness of the basic tennets of his position.
What he actually said was...
// ‘I want to underline the fact that there has been an important wave of immigrants that came to Great Britain from new member states and in many cases they came with aptitudes and a commitment, an involvement we haven’t always seen in our labour force.’ //
He is right. I have had contact with recent Polish migrants and they are good workers, often putting my fellow countrymen to shame.
The office of speaker is supposed to be neutral, that is why he does not stand for election. He should not be making controversial statements, especially when he is representing our parliament.
I quite like him as speaker, but when that Labour deputy speaker did a shift recently, he was much better.
// ‘I want to underline the fact that there has been an important wave of immigrants that came to Great Britain from new member states and in many cases they came with aptitudes and a commitment, an involvement we haven’t always seen in our labour force.’ //
He is right. I have had contact with recent Polish migrants and they are good workers, often putting my fellow countrymen to shame.
The office of speaker is supposed to be neutral, that is why he does not stand for election. He should not be making controversial statements, especially when he is representing our parliament.
I quite like him as speaker, but when that Labour deputy speaker did a shift recently, he was much better.
Technically he does stand for election -- it's just that traditionally no-one stands against him. Nigel Farage, among others, went against this tradition in 2010.
http:// en.wiki pedia.o rg/wiki /Buckin gham_(U K_Parli ament_c onstitu ency)#E lection s_in_th e_2010s
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he's supposed to be prefessionally neutral as between parties in Parliament, where he works.
However, he seems to be on a semi-diplomatic mission to Romania, and has spoken diplomatically, saying some Romanian workers work harder than some British workers. This flatters his hosts and doesn't seem terribly contentious to me.
I expect Mr Farage, should he ever make a similar visit, will chide all his listeners as idle bums and tell them to stay home.
However, he seems to be on a semi-diplomatic mission to Romania, and has spoken diplomatically, saying some Romanian workers work harder than some British workers. This flatters his hosts and doesn't seem terribly contentious to me.
I expect Mr Farage, should he ever make a similar visit, will chide all his listeners as idle bums and tell them to stay home.
As the MP who is against loose immigration said (see link) if he is asked the question he has to answer it.
But what is not neutral about what he said ? Can't see that it is anything but neutral, acknowledging that a country must have some control but accepting that some immigrants have special aptitudes. Does anyone on here deny any of that?
But what is not neutral about what he said ? Can't see that it is anything but neutral, acknowledging that a country must have some control but accepting that some immigrants have special aptitudes. Does anyone on here deny any of that?
As Jim says the Speaker does stand for election and is occasionally opposed which is why a few years back I opened the door to find Nigel Farage standing there.
I have never understood how the political neutrality of the Speaker squares with being a constituency MP - to have an MP who is not allowed to voice an opinion in Parliament seems to me to be be a disadvantage.
Looking at what he actually said - he suggested that those who leave their country and friends and travel many miles to a foreign land to seek work have "aptitudes and a commitment, an involvement we haven't always seen in our labour force" - he was just stating the obvious.
I have never understood how the political neutrality of the Speaker squares with being a constituency MP - to have an MP who is not allowed to voice an opinion in Parliament seems to me to be be a disadvantage.
Looking at what he actually said - he suggested that those who leave their country and friends and travel many miles to a foreign land to seek work have "aptitudes and a commitment, an involvement we haven't always seen in our labour force" - he was just stating the obvious.
slaney
/// Looking at what he actually said - he suggested that those who leave their country and friends and travel many miles to a foreign land to seek work have "aptitudes and a commitment, an involvement we haven't always seen in our labour force" - he was just stating the obvious. ///
What about those British tradesmen who travelled to Germany (Auf Wiedersehen, Pet) the oil workers who work on the rigs, and those who travel to the Middle East?
But there is more incentive for Eastern Europeans to come here to work, such as increased child allowance that is paid to their children who still reside in their mother country, plus all the other benefits that the workers receive while they are working here.
/// Looking at what he actually said - he suggested that those who leave their country and friends and travel many miles to a foreign land to seek work have "aptitudes and a commitment, an involvement we haven't always seen in our labour force" - he was just stating the obvious. ///
What about those British tradesmen who travelled to Germany (Auf Wiedersehen, Pet) the oil workers who work on the rigs, and those who travel to the Middle East?
But there is more incentive for Eastern Europeans to come here to work, such as increased child allowance that is paid to their children who still reside in their mother country, plus all the other benefits that the workers receive while they are working here.
We must be neighbours Slaney he's my MP too!
I also think there's an issue that we are disenfranchised by this tradition
As for what is rich AOG - I think it's rather rich to find the Mail standing up for the work ethic of British workers.
Isn't this more their usual fare?
http:// www.dai lymail. co.uk/n ews/art icle-20 53546/L azy-wor kers-sa cked-ex planati on-gove rnment- told.ht ml
I also think there's an issue that we are disenfranchised by this tradition
As for what is rich AOG - I think it's rather rich to find the Mail standing up for the work ethic of British workers.
Isn't this more their usual fare?
http://
Just looked up if Bercow has actually done a days work in his life, and apparently he has.
// After a spell in merchant banking, Bercow joined the lobbying firm Rowland Sallingbury Casey (part of Saatchi & Saatchi) in 1988, becoming a board director within five years.
With fellow Conservative Julian Lewis, Bercow ran an Advanced Speaking and Campaigning course for over ten years, which trained over 600 Conservatives (including several current MPs) in campaigning and communication techniques. He has also lectured in the United States to students of the Leadership Institute.
In his youth, Bercow had been ranked Britain's No.1 junior tennis player. //
// After a spell in merchant banking, Bercow joined the lobbying firm Rowland Sallingbury Casey (part of Saatchi & Saatchi) in 1988, becoming a board director within five years.
With fellow Conservative Julian Lewis, Bercow ran an Advanced Speaking and Campaigning course for over ten years, which trained over 600 Conservatives (including several current MPs) in campaigning and communication techniques. He has also lectured in the United States to students of the Leadership Institute.
In his youth, Bercow had been ranked Britain's No.1 junior tennis player. //
why is the old phrase 'they are hard workers' supposed to be a compliment towards our eastern european visitors.....
there is no direct correlation between hard work and quality.....
i made a poor choice and hired some of these 'hard workers' and spent thousands on 'british slackers craftsmen, to put it right.
i am middle aged but as a football left back there is no harder worker than me, but will never get a job with the england football team because compared to ashley cole i am useless i.e. lacking the required level of skill.
as Ruskin would have us agree....
“It's unwise to pay too much, but it's worse to pay too little. When
you pay too much, you lose a little money - that's all. When you pay
too little, you sometimes lose everything, because the thing you
bought was incapable of doing the thing it was bought to do. The
common law of business balance prohibits paying a little and getting a
lot - it can't be done. If you deal with the lowest bidder, it is well
to add something for the risk you run, and if you do that you will
have enough to pay for something better".
there is no direct correlation between hard work and quality.....
i made a poor choice and hired some of these 'hard workers' and spent thousands on 'british slackers craftsmen, to put it right.
i am middle aged but as a football left back there is no harder worker than me, but will never get a job with the england football team because compared to ashley cole i am useless i.e. lacking the required level of skill.
as Ruskin would have us agree....
“It's unwise to pay too much, but it's worse to pay too little. When
you pay too much, you lose a little money - that's all. When you pay
too little, you sometimes lose everything, because the thing you
bought was incapable of doing the thing it was bought to do. The
common law of business balance prohibits paying a little and getting a
lot - it can't be done. If you deal with the lowest bidder, it is well
to add something for the risk you run, and if you do that you will
have enough to pay for something better".
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