Helmand's Top Female Police Officer Shot Dead

[naomi24]

Once the international community leaves, what hope is there for women? Should we, as Heather Barr, Afghanistan researcher for Human Rights Watch says, do more to ensure women's rights are protected - and if so, what?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/afghanistan/10159122/Helmands-top-female-police-officer-shot-dead.html

[wolf63]

It is incomprehensible how a person's gender can make them inferior and without any power or voice. It, I believe, the year 2013 - not the middle ages.

I would be suspicious of the old biddy in the photo. She looks scary.

[emmie]

none, having watched the news the other day, women covered up completely, nothing showing, not even the eyes, how can they possibly progress with the country in such turmoil. Khalid Hosseni was interviewed on tv a few months ago, he was actually quite upbeat about it all, sadly i don't share his enthusiasm, once the coalition forces go, the Afghan army, security forces won't survive long, the taliban are better at fighting, they have better tactics, and once one is killed, another just takes his place. Get them around the negotiating table, not sure what good it will ultimately do, but i really fear for the people.

[emmie]

if i had been the police woman, i suspect i would have riding around in an armoured tank, courtesy of the Americans, or British, that would have had a bit more protection than a motorbike, she must have known full well she was an open target, they must hate women, mustn't they?

[EDDIE51]

I have to agree that once we hand over to the Afghan forces it will be a month at most before the Taliban are back in control .
Remember I have personal experience in the field of female Muslim education, I am one of the very few western males who were allowed to teach Muslim females.
I was in Saudi Arabia and taught Saudi female laboratory technicians. For reasons I do not understand a Laboratory is one of the few places where males and females can work together and the females do not need to be veiled.
A veil would be a recipe for disaster in a chemistry lab and on a police officer !

[modeller]

wolfe //It is incomprehensible how a person's gender can make them inferior and without any power or voice. It, I believe, the year 2013 - not the middle ages.//

It's only incomprehensible if you use reason and logic but we are still using the same literature ( the bible ) which gave us the barbarism in the Middle Ages. We still tell our children it's OK to kill millions by God. W

[emmie]

a veil, apart from a bride, is a vile piece of apparel, irrespective of whether the woman is working in a lab, separatism and sexism, cover up because men might be tempted, no man should look at your face or body,
this is just the sort of thinking that was around millennia ago.

[modeller]

cont We still tell them women are inferior , that they should be silent and submit to their husband's superiority. We in the west may not point it out but the stories are there and are read out and it is read out as God's will.

The only difference between us and Islam they take it literally and interpret it in a more extreme way. My friend's father was a Scottish cleric and had an attitude not dissimilar to the Mullah's.

[Gromit]

12 police officers were killed yesterday by an insider suicide bomber.

// The last month has been a particularly bloody period for Afghan police, with 299 officers killed and 617 wounded between mid-May and mid-June, Interior Ministry spokesman Sediq Sediqqi said on Monday. //

This is not an attack on her gender. They are attacking the police all the time. Just that all the men killed we accept it. When a woman is killed, then that proves they think women are inferior. Perhaps the prejudice and the taboos are ours not theirs.

[naomi24]

//Perhaps the prejudice and the taboos are ours not theirs. //

Or perhaps not.

"she faced a daily battle, not just against extremists and opium smugglers, but against her own family.

In an interview with the Telegraph earlier this year, she said: “My brother, father and sisters were all against me. In fact my brother tried to kill me three times."

[emmie]

for those who seem to think they are still a charitable organisation, this gives a somewhat clearer, better picture.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim_Brotherhood

[emmie]

if that doesn't say it all, "my brother tried to kill me, three times"
, can you honestly say this isn't gender based.

[emmie]

it's theirs, not ours. Do men in Britain believe they are superior, will they make their wife stay at home, have endless babies, beat her if she dare speak to a male not related to her, come on how can anyone possibly say that happens in Britain, not anyone of my acquaintance, not ever. I have fought against sexism in the work place, that has been a struggle i grant you, but let's not confuse democracy in Britain to backward thinking countries, men, like many in the Middle East, Pakistan, Afghanistan, even India.

[emmie]

if you take a look at the video i watched, Muslim women victims of acid attacks, you have to look away, it's truly appalling, same for the programme of Malala Yousafazi, which also featured women scarred for life, for no reason other than they are female, and some perceived slight resulted in lifelong agony.

[Gromit]

// Police in Helmand said it was too soon to speculate about who may have been behind the murder. //

But not on Answerbank.

[emmie]

no of course not, because for some odd reason, you always seem to think it's not who it actually points to. Why would they pick on a police woman, because she isn't covered, it would be an affront to those who believe women are subservient, should not be seen in public, nor indeed hold such a job. would a woman kill her, unlikely seeing as how most are unlikely to carry a gun, so who is left.

[emmie]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jul/04/helmand-female-police-officer-dead-islam-bibi

[naomi24]

Gromit, I must have missed something. Who has named the murderer?

[emmie]

from the Guardian link


In 2008 the Taliban killed Malalai Kakar, the head of the department of crimes against women in nearby Kandahar city and at the time the most senior female police officer in the country. She was shot dead on her way to work, and left behind six children.

Two years earlier the provincial head of women's affairs for Kandahar, the Taliban's birthplace, was killed. Last year two women who held the same post in eastern Laghman province were shot dead within six months.

[emmie]

its a dig as usual. he thinks we know who did it, one suspects who did it, as per my last post, but until then we have to wait.

[naomi24]

Oh, I don't know that it's a dig, Em. Gromit may well be suffering under the misapprehension that in places like Afghanistan women are respected, and treated equally and fairly. ;o)