Shouild Same-Sex Parents Be Featured In School Books?

[anotheoldgit]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/educationnews/10171005/Same-sex-parents-should-be-featured-in-school-books.html

Would this type of thing be beneficial to children as young as five, or only create confusion?

[jno]

why would either need to be, Eddie? Why not just king and consort?

[Answerprancer]

"No but it has been known for it to encourage experimentation"

This answer of yours, Git has been addressed several times, care to discuss further? ..Or are you incapable?

[Answerprancer]

"Out comes yet another insult, these liberal-lefties are all so predictable, they cannot join in a reasonable debate without the need to use their standard insult words from their 'great big book of labelling'"

So what do you expect in your seemingly utopian line of questioning? Only responders who concur with you 100%? You're embarrassing yourself yet again and have clearly bitten off more than you can chew.

"Out comes yet another insult"/"absolute Poppy-Cock"

[jim360]

@Daisynonna -- you could try the line I suggested, that is "They can't have a child of their own so they take in one who needs love and care..."

[Answerprancer]

5 year old, "But you told me a mummy and a daddy make a baby."
Where does the conversation go from here at a 5 year old's level?

Let me give it a go...
"Yes darling, a Mummy and Daddy do make a baby, Daddy and Daddy didn't make you but we both love you very much"

Your turn for the next bit Daisy :-)

[DaisyNonna]

jim, ever tried talking to a 5 year old? Next question would be, "why?"
Too much information at 5.

[jim360]

I don't see that it would be any different from avoiding the grisly details relationships between men and women. I'm sure if you were ever asked you would think of something.

[naomi24]

Jim, not all children are adopted. There are such people as surrogate mothers.

Daisy, I know a gay couple - males - who have two lovely adopted children age 3 and 2 - and those children are told they are adopted. Another couple - females - have children from previous relationships who know who their fathers are. None of it has ever presented a problem. Tell them the truth.

[jim360]

True, Naomi, but I was thinking originally of just two men as (adoptive) parents. All of the various other possibilities can be similarly answered I'd have thought.

[LoftyLottie]

No need to go into grand explanations and details with very young children. They child will guide the conversation and you just answer truthfully. Only give them the answer they ask for and if they ask why then tell them with elaborating, and if they want elaborations they will ask again and should get a truthful answer. No need to go into details. It's very simple. I can't see any worries whatsoever.

[naomi24]

The thing is, the adopted children came from a dreadfully abusive, drug infested, background - but they are now the children of two very successful men, they live in a beautiful house, they have a bright future ahead of them - but most of all they are loved dearly - and that's what's important.

[Answerprancer]

I've spoken to many 5 year olds - there is only too much information when they tell you so, usually by switching off or changing the subject.
Here's a conversation between a good friend of mine, me and her (then) five year old son a couple of years ago in a restaurant as we waited for our orders...
Mum: "Did you hear about the Wankathon!?"
Me: "No!?"
Mum: " It was a charity thing to raise awareness about safe sex"
The conversation went on for a bit longer, then 5YO son chips in...
Son: "What's Auditing, Mummy?"
Mum: "Playing with your willy to have a nice feeling"
Son: "Oh, ok"
...end of conversation and no big deal made, not even a giggle.

[craft1948]

Same sex parents..............biologically that is impossible.

[jim360]

Never heard it called auditing before :O

[naomi24]

Lottie, I agree. Answer the questions - no need to elaborate unless they want you to.

[Answerprancer]

For "Auditing" replace "audit" with the first part of "wankathon".

[andres]

There is a much wider issue here .The assumption is being made that the children reading these books will be British white children. What will happen in mixed classes where ,as in my granddaughters school ,about 50% are of different nationalities( mostly Asian children) whose parents do not believe in same sex marriage. Once again I would like to point out that I am just making observations on this topic.

[Answerprancer]

It's the nanny-filter kicking in, Jim - it doesn't discriminate between certain words regardless of context.

[LoftyLottie]

Exactly AP.

My son asked me some very explicit questions when he was much younger than five. I gave him truthful answers without any unnecessary details and got much the same reaction as you describe.

And ha ha re 'Auditing'.

[Answerprancer]

It even goes as far as spelling out in full the initials WT and F when they'd normally go by unnoticed!