Deaths On Brecon Beacons

[LoftyLottie]

This has really upset and worried me. I know they have to face terrible conditions in Afghanistan, etc., but surely there should have been more supervision and observation on a training exercise.

What do other ABers think

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/two-military-personnel-die-welsh-exercise-140343537.html#Feore4n

[LoftyLottie]

Absolutely.

[Sqad]

Shari

\\\it's another to die because some colonel in an aircinditioned office has no common sense.\\

mmm!not a very helpful statement......why not wait for the results of the investigation?

[Just-Jude]

"we still have plenty left"...you'd do well in the army Sqad, their COs probably couldn't care less either!

[LoftyLottie]

One death could well have been put down to an unknown heart condition - it can happen. Two deaths and one hospitalisation is entirely different.

[Mamyalynne]

Of course we need to await the full details, but if the precautions put into place were so poor they could not prevent the collapse of three supposedly healthy men , lord help the troops out in real tropical climes.

[Sharingan]

I wasn't under the impression they were cadets either Zac, I just think the operation was inadviseable in such extreme weather conditions.

[Sqad]

\\\\ but if the precautions put into place were so poor they could not prevent the collapse of three supposedly healthy men \\\

We do not know what the precautions were and whether the soldiers obeyed them.

[sherrardk]

It is not unknown for some soldiers to be particularly gung-ho and to not follow normal operating procedures. The three could have been working together as a unit and may have decided to take unnecessary risks. Until we know more facts it is difficult to make a reasoned judgement.

[Mamyalynne]

Hence my use of the wotd 'of' and the fact we need to await details - which I now will.

[Mamyalynne]

^^ IF

[boxtops]

Surely they have to train in conditions similar to those they'll encounter in real life - otherwise how can they possibly prepare themselves? It's tragic, but we don't know enough about it yet.

[LoftyLottie]

Of course they have to train in similar conditions, but two deaths Boxtops is totally unacceptable. Training cannot completely simulate real conditions - why not use real ammunition if this is the case!?

[jackthehat]

Sometimes they *do*, Lottie........:o)

[LoftyLottie]

I do agree we don't know the circumstances, but I agree with Mamya.

[LoftyLottie]

Oh dear Jack!

[jackthehat]

I know!
It caused me to gulp and blink a couple of times when I found out.... :o)

[sherrardk]

Would have thought they would have to use live ammunition at times.

[LoftyLottie]

Just glad I haven't anybody close in the armed forces then............. I would kill myself with worry!

[sherrardk]

I don't most of us are aware of half that goes on. I know some of the wives from the local camp and they must spend most of their lives worried sick.

[sherrardk]

...I don't 'think'