Yet Another Young Life Taken, Even While On Holiday.

[anotheoldgit]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2377479/Malia-stabbing-Myles-Litchmore-Dunbar-pictured-charged-execution-Tyrell-Matthews-Burton.html

Why can't these gangs really try and get on with each other, do they have to carry on against each other, even when they are on holiday?

One has to ask why would a 19 year old a male model who is studying towards an Economics degree at Northampton University, need to be in a gang?

[mccfluff]

"Now that you have made that statement, would you be good enough to produce some evidence of that fact, also how many killings by knife or gun has there been amongst those "Gosh Horror White Middle Class Children"? "]

how about the murder's of stephen lawrence? Would they fit the bill they were white middle class and in a gang ?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2081935/Stephen-Lawrence-murder-What-jury-wasnt-told-Gary-Dobson.html

[anotheoldgit]

friedgreentomato

/// If I had all day to trawl the internet looking for manipulated stats as you do then I would! ///

Not very convincing , since you seem to have "ALL DAY" trawling my posts.

/// However, I will instead have to use my personal knowledge gained from living in cities and from my career over the past 20 years! ///

And you expect me to accept that as proof to what you said?

Well then what can I say, except you do not seem to be a person who would accept my word as fact, so how can you expect me to accept yours?

[friedgreentomato]

Anotheroldgit,

Tbh I don't really care what you think about me, you obviously have a very low opinion of me, is that because I speak my mind? Or because I point out what you really are?

Either way whatever!! I thought you were leaving?

[anotheoldgit]

triggerhippy

/// tribalism is not restricted to Africa though AOG. ///

My are you not the clever one, now who would have thought that?

Can you not read more into things than the written words, ('TYPED') I thought I would add that to prevent any confusion on your part).

Africa was an example, or did you wish me to add all nations that have tribes?

[mccfluff]

Hellooooooooooo what about the gang that killed stephen lawrence

or this little lot

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2025068/UK-riots-Middle-class-rioters-revealed-including-Laura-Johnson-Natasha-Reid-Stefan-Hoyle.html

BTW im using your favourite paper :-)

[anotheoldgit]

mccfluff

Thanks you for that, so that is one.

[sandyRoe]

I had to smile at the mention of a looted violin in MccFluffs link.

[anotheoldgit]

friedgreentomato

/// I don't really care what you think about me, you obviously have a very low opinion of me, is that because I speak my mind? ///

Yes that's about it, it's what is in your mind that has formed my opinion of you, perhaps if you didn't speak your mind it would be better.

/// Either way whatever!! I thought you were leaving? ///

What and make you unemployed on AB, because who else would you attack if I wasn't around?

[friedgreentomato]

This is the third time you have accused me of attacking you!

Can you please provide evidence of these so called attacks, if you can provide evidence I will then go to Ed and ask if a suspension or banning is required as they are obviously so bad that they warrant it!

[mccfluff]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2006/jun/23/ukcrime (link to dailywail can be provided on request)

not sure if this lovely chappy is middle class but he is white

[Octavius]

Anyone remember Julian de Vere Whiteway-Wilkinson and his gang?

I don't think they were from a sink estate.

[mccfluff]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2332644/Cocaine-ring-lynchpin-lived-secret-millionaire-modest-120-000-suburban-semi-gang-marionettes-carried-dirty-work.html

if you were his neighbour you could be forgiven for thinking he was an ordinary middle class chap going about his business - pure speculation on my part i have no idea how he behaved at home, but i do know career criminals don;t like to draw attention to themselves

[mccfluff]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/3877079.stm

these lovely chaps?

[anotheoldgit]

mccfluff

You are struggling that's twice you have put the Stephen Lawerence case forward and now the rioting hardly gang warfare

/// Whatever the reasons for their alleged trouble-making, it is clear that their future dreams could be crushed by their moments of madness. ///

Alleged trouble-making, no stabbings or shootings, it would seem.

And "Gosh Horror White Middle Class Children" not all it would seem.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/08/12/article-2025068-0D63A14E00000578-106_306x428.jpg

/// University graduate: Natasha Reid, 24, stole a £300 TV from a damaged comet store ///

[Gromit]

Tribalism has not colour or geographical limitations AOG. It is everywhere and everyone.

I could have used Clanism but that is a cr*p word

[Gromit]

Off Topic

have you seen this AOG

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-23436855

[mccfluff]

i was referring to my earlier post, which you ignored

[anotheoldgit]

Gromit

/// Tribalism has not colour or geographical limitations AOG. It is everywhere and everyone. ///

And I have never said any different, as I have said before I only used Africa as an example, and the fact that colour came into the debate is because in this case it is about black gangs on holiday.

Read back on this post and you will see that triggerhippy buckled the wheel on this thread and sent it off course.