What Happened In Leicester?

[sandyRoe]

A young man named Antoin Akpom is stabbed and the following night a house is firebombed and a mother with her three children die in the blaze.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-24076859

[THECORBYLOON]

ANOTHEOLDGIT, if you are a white European, why can previous South African Presidents not be white African or just African?

[naomi24]

Pseudo intellectuals seem to be the only ones objecting to SP’s Britishness. Clearly the tag ‘pseudo’ is appropriate.

[sir.prize]

sp1814 - you are making some mileage with your 'colourful' comments but how do your ramblings and rantings relate to sandy's OP?

[hc4361]

According to the latest reports the murder and house fire are not linked in any way.

[anotheoldgit]

mushroom25

sp1814

SP: //I speak with a London accent//

Why is it that one can sometimes tell by voice only that a person is black just by the way they speak, even though they were most likely born and educated in Britain.

/// I support British teams in international events, ///

Given a choice between white athletes or black or Caribbean/African teams, who then?

/// I wear a suit during the week and casuals at weekends) who's to say I am not British? ///

I don't think either of those is a strictly British thing, in fact I would lay bets that many British have never ever wore a suit.

[naomi24]

AOG, with you this isn’t about nationality or culture. It’s about colour and nothing more. You’re an absolute disgrace!

[anotheoldgit]

hc4361

/// AOG, so as you are English with a fine pedigree of Englishness are we to assume that you are a football hooligan, binge drink and get in to fights at weekends? ///
/// That's what English men do, right? ///

That is not only a faulty generalization, but it is also demeaning to Englishmen in general.

I won't put racist, because as is often pointed out by some, "English is not a race", whereas those same are not slow to point out that one is racist if one dares to criticise Muslims.

Funny old world.

[Zeuhl]

/I would lay bets that many British have never ever wore a suit/

or learned to speak or write English properly

- apparently LOL

[anotheoldgit]

sp1814

/// I have absolutely no idea of your mindset, but I assure you that on this side of the argument at least, racial superiority was not on my mind. ///

And neither did I suggest it was, but what I do know is the fact that there were many 'rearing in the stalls' ready to fling that accusation straight in my face.

[craft1948]

Now I remember why I don't often look in News...........

[sp1814]

sir.prize

Can't you see that I'm discussing points with AOG?

Or do you just see my posts in isolation?

As for rambling and ranting - I would suggest that everyone thus far can understand the points I'm making, even if they don't agree with them.

[naomi24]

Craft, I wish I’d have stayed away today too!

AOG, anyone who can ask the questions you ask has to be racist. Deciding what colour a person is by the sound of their voice? Choosing between black and white athletes? What the hell difference does it make? Normal people just don’t think like that. Unbelievable!!

[anotheoldgit]

naomi24

/// AOG, with you this isn’t about nationality or culture. It’s about colour and nothing more. You’re an absolute disgrace! ///

That is just not true, since I have often supported you in your belief that 'it is not about colour but culture'.

And how dare you call me an absolute disgrace madam, it is a wonder that the team have not removed your post, seeing that it infringes Site Rules, regarding making personal offensive remarks.

I'd a good mind to push that custard pie that you are holding straight into your face. :0)

[sp1814]

AOG

I asked you if I were British.

I don't know what you[i mean by 'native Briton'. It's a phrase I am not familiar with.

Therefore, if you wish to introduce it into the debate, you are free to do so - but it's hardly fair once introduced to spect others to define it or you.

Now - one more try...in what way am I [i]not] British?

[THECORBYLOON]

ANOTHEOLDGIT, if you are not happy with a comment, report it, it's your choice.

[naomi24]

AOG, I dare to say it because you are – and report it if you like. Removed or not, I stand by it. I’m ashamed that some of my countrymen think as you do.

[THECORBYLOON]

ANOTHEOLDGIT, given the choice between white athletes and black or Caribbean/African teams, who would YOU support? Are you suggesting that someone who is black, British and supports British teams would suddenly change if a white Briton were competing against black athletes?

[sp1814]

AOG

Perhaps the next time you berate immigrants for not integrating, I would suggest you consider this - it doesn't matter how much someone with black or brown skin tries to integrate, there will be those for whom they will never be British, no matter how hard they try.

Which is a great pity.